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Gentlemen, (how do you) start your engines
I've just discovered that since my '16 Explorer has a Start/Stop button, that I cannot shift it to neutral if the engine doesn't start. I've seen several work-arounds, but so far none have worked. There's certain to be a way, and since it's running fine it's not an issue at the moment, but it bothers me nonetheless.
However, it got me to thinking of all the ways that used to be available to start mine and other vehicles. I push started my splitty bus all through college as I couldn't keep the starter working, but here are several others. Did I miss any? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8jDFsctVMl0?rel=0&start=270" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/65qrzgbTTcQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ROnb5ouBjNc" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> Pony Start <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/veOcZjuQoko?rel=0&start=240" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Aq8CwaDVPO4?rel=0&start=30" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Starter button the floor.......Beside the Dimmer switch...........OR:
1960's Brit bike in the winter: Put on a ton of clothes.....Kick, Kick, Kick ..........30 times......Take off jacket........Kick 30 more times, take off sweater.....Adjust advance lever.......Kick 30 more times......Take off sweat shirt........30 more times..........hold down plunger till it's flooded..........Kick 20 times and it starts. Hope it doesn't die while you get dressed again............College days.......Happy times...... Rule of thumb: If it doesn't start in 100 kicks, do a tune up...........Also, Always rent a flat on the top of a hill so you can bump start going down - I always considered location based on this....... (*****This story had been modified to not offend fans of old Kick Start Harley's****) |
Porsche 944's are a key to the right of steering wheel, manual transmission. Can roll start them.
Jaguar X150, push button start, if it doesn't go, you stuck. Could make a habit of shutting the car off in neutral and relying on parking brake. C5 Corvette, same deal as 944. |
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You may be able to shut your Explorer off in neutral instead of park if moving it while its dead is a concern. |
V8 race car with dry sump oil system.
Plug in 110v oil heater blanket on the 5 gallon dry sump tank. Preheat engine oil. Prime dry sump oil pump. Peel cog belt off the external 5 stage dry sump oil pump. spin the dry sump pump with a drill and prime pump. Check oil pressure gauge show 30 psi on the drill. reinstall 5 stage oil pump cog belt. Prime carb with fuel pump. Turn everything off in car. with ignition off Spin motor with starter verify oil pressure. with engine spinning turn on ignition engine starts turn on fuel pump. https://youtu.be/R90CRp6e8P0 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1516079131.jpg |
I put's a socket driver on my crank bolt of my cayman
and then ratched it around really really quickly |
Fascinating. Thanks.
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This is a process I've been through many, many times.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ixRVD6iFq6w" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> 1. Pray some idiot didn't shut the tractor down while it was running on kerosene. 2. If God didn't answer, switch from kerosene to gasoline, drain the carburetor. 3. Open the compression release petcocks 4. Roll the flywheel over, get it on a compression stroke and pull it through. 5. If it fires more than once, run around the tractor closing the petcocks before you set the barn on fire. Early electric start John Deeres had enclosed flywheels. They supplied an adapter so you could take the steering wheel off and use it to turn the flywheel if the electric starter didn't work. |
Generally make some sweet talk. I’ve been known to employ flowers when necessary....
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A mòre mundane start process for my 911 is - disconnect coil to distributor lead and crank her up till oil pressure gets at least half way up the gauge. Disclaimer, I have Sal Carsellers MAF, injectors and chip which pre primes the pump. With his setup the car always starts immediately like a modern car regardless of how long it has sat. Hence my oil pressure build up start routine if it's been sitting more than a few days. I'm the type of guy you want to buy a used car from, never driven hard until up to temp. Wouldn't even drive a rental hard until up to temp; cold engine abuse is top of my pet peeves list (oops that's another thread).
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Alexa...start my engine :)
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I'd be careful with that one in case Alexa decides on a different meaning.
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Big marine 2 stroke diesels start with compressed air.
Best Les |
I have push started the 911 more than once but I prefer to just twist the key.
My brother's daily driver is a 1954 VW bug. He was at work the other day and had left his headlights on. It was converted to 12 volts 30 years ago but it there is no buzzer to warn him. Anyway he asked two young coworkers to give him a push. They both looked at him like he was nuts and one said I ain't pushing you home. He explained he just need a push start. They had never heard of such a thing. They finally gave him a push and of course it started and he drove home. The 20 something coworkers were astonished and thought he was magic. Of course that all think he is nuts to drive a 63 year old car to work. |
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My 1970 240Z when it still had the sidedraft SU carbs and manual choke, in any weather below 32°F, required a can of ether......
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I delivered pizzas for 2 semesters in college in a 1983 Honda Civic without a starter . Even road tripped it to Daytona and back like that .
That thing was so easy to start. There was rarely a time where I could not do it by myself, of course, you always tried to park facing downhill . |
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Is there more than one hill in Florida? |
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Lots of hills in FL....they call 'em bridges though :) |
The police don't like it when you park on a bridge. ;)
Dave Berry has a great article on the highest point in Florida. It is the trash dump. He actually got the son of Sir Edmond Hillary to go with him as they scaled the highest point. They drove to the top in a 4x4 of some sort. |
if you can't get the car in neutral if it's not running, what happens if you need to get it on a flatbed for a tow?
do you just drag the rear wheels all the way up? |
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Mind you, the Exploder is fine. It just bugs me that I don't know how to get it into neutral. |
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I had a friend with a 928, that had direct starting fluid injection.
He could never get the thing to start when cold, and this was long before the internet, and easy access to parts and information. Instead of getting up every morning and opening the hood to fog it with ether, he rigged up some steel brake line through the firewall, and could shoot ether into it right from the drivers seat . Surprising enough, it ran for a long time like that |
My dad talked about a harrowing mission in a C-124 back when I was just a infant.
We lived in Dover Delaware and he was an Air Force pilot. They regularly flew missions out to Thule Air Force Base. The rumor was there was a naked woman behind every tree. Of course there were no trees. Anyway, he said on one mission they had to spend the night and the airplane had no hangar. It was brutal cold. The plugs fouled on the engine and the mechanics had to replace all the plugs in the brutal cold. They went through three sets of plugs and it was all they had. If it did not start they were going to have to stay another night. I think the engine used the Coffman engine starter system. Anyway has this one more way to start an engine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffman_engine_starter |
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How to start a Cessna 210 Turbo from cold
After pre-flight check: Master switch - "on" Propeller - high rpm Throttle - closed Aux. fuel pump switch - on "Lo" Ignition key - start position Slowly advance throttle Release ignition key when engine starts (if it fails to start, set Aux fuel pump to "Hi" Reset throttle to desired RPM Aux fuel pump - "off" Continue with preparations checklist for flight |
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So, starting up in really cold temps:
1) Talked to farmer in North Dakota - they would take the spark plugs out of their tractor and put them in the oven. 2) Alaska - You could take off and break gears in your transfer case if too cold. Talked to a guy that would put BBQ coal in a pan and light them off under the drive train for a few hours in the morning........ |
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In '53 International made a dozer engine that starts on gasoline, then transitions to diesel. The left side of the engine is all diesel business, filters, ignition pump, injectors, and a decompression switch. All of the cylinders had one valve in the engine block that opened to a dead end expansion chamber, opening these valves would drop the static compression ratio to a gasoline friendly level. The right side of the engine had an intake manifold, with a very small single barrel carb, and a typical looking distributor. And spark plugs. The carb had no throttle plate, it ran wide open with just enough CFM to make the engine idle. It did have a choke. With the compression release pulled open the engine would roll over using just a single Group 24 battery. This is a very large engine, and with diesel compression levels would have required several batteries. It would start up on gasoline until it was warm. Then you would coordinate the decompression lever and diesel throttle to transition to diesel power for actual operation. In gas mode, it didn't produce enough torque to actually drive the dozer. Sent from my STV100-1 using Tapatalk |
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