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RKDinOKC 02-20-2018 02:52 PM

Used to have a large garden and orchard. The squirrels were eating in the garden. Got a golden retriever. Squirrels were chased away enough that were no longer a problem. The problem is the golden retriever would eat the okra. Yep, okra. Who knew.

At my current home there are a few squirrels but not many. There is a great horned owl nest in the top of the cottonwood tree in my back yard. Can hear them hooting late eveneings in the fall.

Otherwise...Caddyshack!

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Danimal16 02-20-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9934346)
Used to have a large garden and orchard. The squirrels were eating in the garden. Got a golden retriever. Squirrels were chased away enough that were no longer a problem. The problem is the golden retriever would eat the okra. Yep, okra. Who knew.

At my current home there are a few squirrels but not many. There is a great horned owl nest in the top of the cottonwood tree in my back yard. Can hear them hooting late eveneings in the fall.

Otherwise...Caddyshack!

OKRA?? For crying out loud, that is funny!

aigel 02-20-2018 08:59 PM

You need to learn how to clean and cook them, now you aren't killing them for fun, but for food. I can clean a squirrel in a few minutes, fur to pot. You don't know what you are missing. You stay on top of them, it will greatly reduce the population wanting to be near the house. They are not stupid.

I'd shoot them with a pellet rifle - .22 Benjamin or a modern Co2 gun. A subsonic .22 or CB caps also are good for this.

I have no experience trapping tree squirrels but think that some of the traps shown are for ground squirrels.

G

Danimal16 02-20-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9934836)
You need to learn how to clean and cook them, now you aren't killing them for fun, but for food. I can clean a squirrel in a few minutes, fur to pot. You don't know what you are missing. You stay on top of them, it will greatly reduce the population wanting to be near the house. They are not stupid.

I'd shoot them with a pellet rifle - .22 Benjamin or a modern Co2 gun. A subsonic .22 or CB caps also are good for this.

I have no experience trapping tree squirrels but think that some of the traps shown are for ground squirrels.

G

Traps work for both. Also, don't assume it is for fun, they are pests and destroy the food I grow.

RKDinOKC 02-20-2018 11:20 PM

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KFC911 02-21-2018 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Danimal16 (Post 9934866)
Traps work for both. Also, don't assume it is for fun, they are pests and destroy the food I grow.

Yep...I'm a live and let live kinda guy...I battle muskrats constantly around my pond structures....with a shovel only ;). There's a groundhog with a deathwish if he goes after my dad's 'maters again this year....he's been given ample warning.

edited....groundhogs are welcome on my rural property....everything is....almost :)

Starless 02-21-2018 04:41 AM

They told me the same thing about trapping, you can't release them on somebody else property, but we have a large wooded park on the other side of the river that i've been releasing them. I back up the SUV with the back facing the woods and let them loose. I can see if anybody is pulling into the park from 3/4 mile away. The park is only used for launching boats into the river and there's a soccer field that's only used after school and weekends. I have a .22 and a .177. The .22 I think is a bit noisy, I would use the .177 and shoot from inside the house to a bird feeder hanging on the deck @ 12 feet away. I am not going to eat them, have never skinned one and the wife said no way am I cooking a rat in the house.

KFC911 02-21-2018 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Starless (Post 9935017)
They told me the same thing about trapping, you can't release them on somebody else property, but we have a large wooded park on the other side of the river that i've been releasing them. I back up the SUV with the back facing the woods and let them loose. I can see if anybody is pulling into the park from 3/4 mile away. The park is only used for launching boats into the river and there's a soccer field that's only used after school and weekends. I have a .22 and a .177. The .22 I think is a bit noisy, I would use the .177 and shoot from inside the house to a bird feeder hanging on the deck @ 12 feet away. I am not going to eat them, have never skinned one and the wife said no way am I cooking a rat in the house.

I got my .177 strictly for targets.....I'd go with the .22....and if I couldn't make a clean kill with air power, then I would opt for a .22 subsonic...or 50 cal....whatever it takes :)

stomachmonkey 02-21-2018 05:44 AM

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Squirrel melts

stevej37 02-21-2018 10:08 AM

I've been using 22 cal bird shot for squirrels.
The range isn't as good as reg shot, but the spread pattern makes it easier to score a hit.

Cooper911SC 02-21-2018 10:35 AM

The last 3 years we're seeing more and more of these guys.

Older neighbor ladies macadamia tree was stripped completely 2 years in a row.
They also get into the avocado trees...

I started with a .177 springer but struggled to get clean 1 shot kills. I’m not into maiming.

(Most of my shots are like a shooting gallery, braced on a 5’ tall wall and shooting 15-20 yards)
Have moved on to a .25 PCP Maurader
.22 would probably work fine... but we also get the occasional raccoon or coyote. I wanted more knock down power.

I killed 25 squirrels the first year and after the first 5 the following year I quit counting...

I know I’m in the 40-50 range now and just the beginning of this year I have noticed a marked drop in the number of squirrels I am seeing.

Like 1-2 a month now rather than 8-10 scampering around.

Good progress!
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Tried cooking one up too. Felt bad waisting them...

Tobra 02-21-2018 10:53 AM

A good dog would solve your problem.

Alternatively, get some red fox urine and use it to keep them away.

Jolly Amaranto 02-21-2018 11:25 AM

For some reason the Great Horned Owls around here don't go for the squirrels. By examining the "pellets" they cough up they eat mostly mice and sometimes a dove. I have seen the squirrels chase them off. The Red Tailed Hawks on the other had do grab one now and then. I still shoot around 50 a year with my pellet gun. Seems to not even make a dent. With all the pecan and oak trees around there is more than enough for them to eat.
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Stealing tomatoes from the garden.
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flipper35 02-21-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Starless (Post 9934223)
Thanks all. I stopped by the PD to find out what the law is as far as shooting an air rifle in my yard to kill the squirrels. They said they didn't care, but, if a neighbor complains they will have to come out and investigate. The only problem they can see is that the squirrels are considered game animals and I could be cited for hunting without a license. So, I really only have 2 neighbors and they are never home. So I may just check to see if they're home before shooting, or I may just go over there when they are home and ask if they care. I very much doubt they'll give a damn.

Check with the DNR or your state's small game regs. I bet it is legal to kill them on your property without a license if they are causing damage.

flipper35 02-21-2018 11:52 AM

Oh, we have bald eagles in our area so tree rats aren't much of an issue for us. It is for the neighbors and their cats though. Sometimes they drop a cat on the road in front of you. Who knew?

john70t 02-21-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9934337)
We have peacocks...

I knew of a Florida condo complex that had a few peacocks.
Noisy as heck at certain times of the day, but so beautiful to watch prance.
They gobbled up all the cockroaches around trash containers, also millipedes found inside the house like a carpet by returning residents. Kept everything clean.
They got run over.

Rickysa 02-21-2018 12:07 PM

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Rickysa 02-21-2018 12:08 PM

getting in trouble at work....dying here :D

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Rickysa 02-21-2018 12:13 PM

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MysticLlama 02-21-2018 12:36 PM

Good morning, I've brought a gift. :)

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vash 02-21-2018 12:53 PM

that is a fantastic picture!!

KFC911 02-21-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticLlama (Post 9935687)
Good morning, I've brought a gift. :)

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Is her name Diana ;)?

scottmandue 02-21-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9935624)
I knew of a Florida condo complex that had a few peacocks.
Noisy as heck at certain times of the day, but so beautiful to watch prance.
They gobbled up all the cockroaches around trash containers, also millipedes found inside the house like a carpet by returning residents. Kept everything clean.
They got run over.

The story goes the Vanderlip family who had a Mansion overlooking the ocean brought in peacocks as pet to enhance the garden (huge estate).
Well, they prospered, at first they were only seen in Palos Verdes but now they have moved into San Pedro and are even been seen in Long Beach.
They don't bother me, in my teens we would camp out on the beach in Palos Verdes and saw them often. My wife on the other hand, hates them, they dig in her garden, leave goose size poo on the walk... and worst of all the saunter around in the street and block traffic (not for me, I slow down but don't stop, eventually they see me and get out of the way).

vash 02-21-2018 02:17 PM

i had a family near Yosemite beg me to help them get rid of some Peacock.

that might be the smartest bird, ever. you cant get near one in the wild. i think they know what a shotgun is.

mattdavis11 02-22-2018 04:41 AM

You might do some good if you keep after them. One week I killed about 40 in the back yard, 10 in just a few hours. That year we did harvest some peaches and pears, but not nearly as many as the squirrels did.

I had two labs, both loved the game. They were good for two things. Letting you know they have them spotted, and bringing them to the porch. The squirrels weren't the least bit scared of the dogs, they actually toyed with them, bombing them with pine cones.

I used a .22 benjamin air rifle, 4x6 Zeiss scope.

Starless 02-22-2018 05:59 AM

Fuch it, I'm going to start shooting them. I'll start off with the .177 since it's quieter and move to the .22 if i have no luck. It's cold again, so if the neighbors are home, they'll have the window shut. I'm retired and they work, so mornings will be when the shooting starts.

jhynesrockmtn 02-22-2018 06:20 AM

This may have been suggested. Cat rescues are always looking for a place to park feral cats. Get a couple, feed them and let them do the work.

vash 02-22-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Starless (Post 9936559)
Fuch it, I'm going to start shooting them. I'll start off with the .177 since it's quieter and move to the .22 if i have no luck. It's cold again, so if the neighbors are home, they'll have the window shut. I'm retired and they work, so mornings will be when the shooting starts.

.177 to the noggin is pretty effective.

VincentVega 02-22-2018 08:28 AM

thats what I use

just be sure of whats down range, I was surprised at the range of those little things.

Evans, Marv 02-22-2018 09:13 AM

Let us know how it works out. Like I said, I wiped out most of the ground squirrels around here years ago. Since then I've only had a few each year try to set up house, and I eliminate them when I can. My air rifle is zeroed at about 100 ft. The longest kill shot was about 125 ft., and it has enough punch to put them out of commission with one shot. If it didn't, I'd ramp up to something heavier.

HardDrive 02-22-2018 11:05 AM

Squirrels are tough little sobs. I would be surprised if .177 can cleanly kill them.

scottmandue 02-22-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9935871)
i had a family near Yosemite beg me to help them get rid of some Peacock.

that might be the smartest bird, ever. you cant get near one in the wild. i think they know what a shotgun is.

I'm guessing the one's in my neighborhood have been domesticated, people feed them and let them nest in their back yards. Like I said they wander around in the middle of the street and don't notice a car until it is right up on them (kinda like a pidgin).

Jolly Amaranto 02-22-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9936955)
Squirrels are tough little sobs. I would be surprised if .177 can cleanly kill them.

I have no problems with my .177. Just killed two today. Head, neck or shoulder and they are on the ground. They may twitch a bit.

vash 02-22-2018 11:45 AM

just for information.

those plain-jane wooden rat traps are very effective on tree squirrels. they cannot resist peanut butter.. i hung them on tree trunks. so they jaws snap in the down direction. they have to climb up to them. SNAP! they usually wiggle free and do that twitch death roll on the ground.

wswartzwel 02-22-2018 11:57 AM

On rat traps I have found tying a short piece of string to the trigger latch, fraying it, and smearing peanut butter into the thread, helps prevent trap cleanings. They bite and pull on the string, which makes sure to pop the trigger latch.

vash 02-22-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wswartzwel (Post 9937028)
On rat traps I have found tying a short piece of string to the trigger latch, fraying it, and smearing peanut butter into the thread, helps prevent trap cleanings. They bite and pull on the string, which makes sure to pop the trigger latch.

that is brilliant!!

RKDinOKC 02-22-2018 01:27 PM

Caught my golden sitting about 15 ft from the pole on my stockade fence. She was making all sorts of whiny chatting noises, not barking or growling. When she stopped the great horned owl sitting on the fence post hooted back. Then she made more noises and the owl hooted back. I watched for several minutes as the conversation when back and forth. The the golden stopped and came over to me happily as usual. The owl hotted one more time then flew off.

Don't know what they were discussing but...Noticed my golden still asks excitedly to go out focused on chasing something in the yard, it is only in the daytime and not at night any more. She has also started taking her toys out into the yard to run and play with. Also gathered from the hooting 9pm to midnite the owl has taken a mate and they have a nest in the top of the cottonwood in my back yard. The cottonwood tree is the tallest spot for a block in any direction.

Seldom see any squirrels, rats, opossum, raccoons, snakes, lizards, rabbits, toads, etc. Do on occasion find parts, i.e. feet or tails left by the dog and the occasional bone ball dropped by the owls.

mattdavis11 02-22-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9937147)
Caught my golden sitting about 15 ft from the pole on my stockade fence. Noticed my golden still asks excitedly to go out focused on chasing something in the yard...
Seldom see any squirrels, rats, opossum, raccoons, snakes, lizards, rabbits, toads, etc. Do on occasion find parts, i.e. feet or tails left by the dog and the occasional bone ball dropped by the owls.

Owls live of off rodents. You have to explain to the dog(s) the game is over, for now. The Owls will move on, then game on. If the dog(s) won't give in, let them nab them on their own. They will, if the are good.

Starless 02-23-2018 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 9937014)
just for information.

those plain-jane wooden rat traps are very effective on tree squirrels. they cannot resist peanut butter.. i hung them on tree trunks. so they jaws snap in the down direction. they have to climb up to them. SNAP! they usually wiggle free and do that twitch death roll on the ground.

Great idea! I never thought of hanging them from a tree trunk, this way they have to stick their heads in the trap to get the bait. Last year I had a trap in the garden attached to a cement block. The squirrel stuck it's paw in the trap to get the peanut butter and got it stuck. I went back in the house to get the gun to finish him off, but when I got back outside it had chewed it's paw off and left it in the trap. I thought for sure it would die either from blood loss or just not being able to survive with just one paw. Well, several months later in the winter there it was, on my deck minus one paw.


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