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2 the bad guys often find a place with a large crowd of people. If you line 100 people up in 5 rows of 20 with the rows staggered one behind the other and give me a semi-auto anything, I'm pretty sure I could take a crap load of them out with my eyes closed by just pulling the trigger and pointing the gun at the crowd. 3 The bad guys are probably not that worried about getting shot by the people that they are shooting at since they usually pick unarmed targets and have the element of surprise. 4 Going back to #1, the bad guys are crazy and probably really don't give a fuch if they get shot or killed (that may actually be their plan anyway). 1 The cops don't want to get shot or killed 2 the cops are getting shot at and are likely the target by the time they start shooting 3 The cops are highly visible and have to provide a little notice first (no element of surprise). It really doesn't seem that weird to me. |
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We had a cop turn up at pistol club to do some practice. He was dressed all in black and thought he looked like a special commando or something.
He setup a torso sized target at 10 meters and let rip at it. Not a single hit. Then he sets up the same target at 25 meters and lets rip at that, and gets a couple of hits - bizarre. |
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Further, under high stress, you don't "rise to the occasion", you fall to your highest level of training at best. Even if you have above-average skill/training/proficiency, you are no longer going to be in a controlled environment (at a range, with ear-pro, no stress, stationary targets, nobody shooting back, etc.), if/when the SHTF. Your fine motor skills go to crap, adrenaline spikes, and your fight/flight instincts kick in. Couple all that with a sub-optimal weapon (handgun vs. rifle), and your chances of missing go way up. You are not going to be a steely-eyed, non-flinching Harry Callahan, asking if the punks feel lucky... |
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Also, the near-perfect hit percentage of bad-guys is actually a common meme that circulates most LE agencies/PDs. It's amazing. I've personally heard first-hand accounts of a bad guy getting multiple hits on 2 different officers (thankfully all non-lethal) while running away and shooting backwards, (gun upside down, firing blind). "Bad guy magic" is definitely a recognized phenomenon. Gun-wielding bad guys typically have nothing to lose, don't need to worry about ROE, innocent bystanders, or ramifications of a "bad shoot". They are often under the influence of something, and/or just plain nutters with no sense of self-preservation. |
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True key stone cops. One up against the wall no cover. Four along side the SUV. The fat one half knocks himself out on the SUV and falls to the ground. The other three stooges don't know what to do. They are firing at least one of them thar A-ssault Weapons too. Oh yeah they had them one a those black A-ssault Vehickles too. I wonder how many rounds from that AR went right through the motor home and down the street? Also curious to know if all the AR rounds hit the motorhome or if they just went down street like in guided cruise missiles? The suspect could have killed all of them if he wanted to they were so exposed and disoriented. Yep they these yahoos should be in schools protecting the kids. These guys instill lots of confidence in me regarding law enforcement. But then again this was in San Francisco so expectations aren't all that high. |
Some folks have nothing to loose, others have lots to loose.
The ones with nothing are probably better shots when people are shooting back. |
I won't call it amusing, but we had this situation here in NZ.
A drug dealer was holed up in a house after shooting at police and helicopters. The police got their armed offenders squad. Same as you guy's SWAT team. And they were all geared up marching in in a tight line assault rifles to the shoulder, in other words going in for a kill. The young druggy guy nailed the three of them with a small caliber assault rifle as they came down the hall. |
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Sorry, your idea sounds absolutely preposterous. I doubt any cop avoids target practice because he thinks it'll look bad in court. |
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From my college sports psychology class, I remember there's something called the Yerkes-Dodson Effect. It's a correlation between arousal (non-sexual) and performance. Too little arousal (not being pumped up enough) for a task, and you don't perform at your optimum. As you get more arousal, you tend to do better. That's where your training and practice come into light. But, at the other end of the hump-shaped curve, if you become too overstimulated, performance drops off. The trick, for the athlete, is to be in the right zone of arousal/adrenaline/stimulation for the event. Enough, but not too much. The example was pool-players. The study looked at people playing pool. People were observed playing alone, to determine if they were "good" or "bad" pool players. Then a group of people were sent over to "watch" the subjects play. Theoretically the audience would raise the pool players' level of arousal. The good pool players played better. The bad players played worse. The theory was that when stressed, people reverted to their natural state. If I were a cop, I'd certainly want my natural state to be a good marksman. |
I think the suspect was in the RV and not visible to the police. I got the impression they were returning fire at the RV.
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In hindsight from the comfort of my cozy armchair it looked like those officers broke most if not all of the guidelines for using deadly force. Did they actually have a target? Did they know what was behind their target?
Yes a short video doesn't tell the whole story but dang that sure looked like a fluster cuck. |
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It's San Fran. Need I say more?
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Don't let their PR disuade you from the notion that they are NOT keeping the animals in line in LA. The last time the animals got a free pass in LA was in 92, and the city burned... that was because Chief Gates flipped the bird at the City Council who was trying to oust his racist azz, and told his department to STAND DOWN. That showed the lily livered CS's what the LAPD means to them. |
The SFPD model officer is Barney Fife...with his one bullet in his shirt pocket...
That is one neutered department, where the prerequisite is to be anti-gun..Officer "Ouuu you mean I have to carry A GUN!!!!" Department answer, "Yes but it is only for show." Officer, "Well OK, I suppose." Florida just goes to show ya that they ain't gona be protectin you..Welcome to the jungle Baby.. |
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