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Scott Douglas 03-21-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9970431)
I bought a Sony 5100 a year ago and returned it, color was all wrong and over-saturated. I have an old Lumix LX5 that takes good pics most of the time but others not so much. I need to do a lot of detail pics like this second one.

Any recommendations?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521672551.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521672551.JPG

My experience with 'product' type photography is limited to my taking pictures of my own cameras mostly. The one thing I've found is that controlling the light is most important.
I just took this shot with a $20 camera I bought off Goodwill. I actually have four of them that I keep for everyday carry. Canon PowerShot SD1000. Small as a package of cig's or playing cards, 7 megapixel, it has a 'Flower' setting. Works for me when I don't want to haul out the Micro Nikkor on the A7ii.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521675140.JPG

Scott Douglas 03-21-2018 03:39 PM

I did see something that might help you Shaun and it's cheap.
It was a plastic jug like a milk carton, only round, where they cut the bottom out and a quarter section of the wall to shoot thru. Set it over the product. It controls the light by diffusing it so you won't end up with that flash hot spot. I would recommend a tripod and no flash if possible too.

edit: Check this thread out as this is where I saw it....

https://www.talkemount.com/threads/trout-lilies.17922/

LEAKYSEALS951 03-21-2018 03:45 PM

Oh gosh- Totally turn off the flash if you haven't already!
If Scott's idea doesn't work (and that is a good idea)- disable the flash, prop the camera on something solid (like a book of something), program a delay into the shutter fire, hit the button, and step away to get a clearer shot in low light.

A lot of these camera's also have different light settings which need to be played with to get what you want.

In addition to my SLR, I also love the canon powershots. I buy them at will and have them laying everywhere. So versatile and convenient, and even they are too powerful for uploads to pp without lowering the resolution. I think it even has a macro setting. The cool thing about the small point and shoots as you can put them on an el-cheapo tripod and they are so featherweight the whole assembly works.

Scott Douglas 03-21-2018 03:57 PM

Shaun - were you shooting under fluorescent lights for the pic you posted?
Those can be hard to get the right color to show up under.

LEAKYSEALS951 03-21-2018 04:00 PM

That was going to be my next suggestion- you can almost see the flourescent light tube reflections in the macro shot. Flourescent can throw everything off. A lot of these camera's have lighting setting built in to oversaturate things because it "looks" good- for example "nature" settings will accentuate the greens and blues. You've got to really read the owners manual and turn that stuff off.

Scott Douglas 03-21-2018 04:10 PM

Here's an example of my Nex-7's capability, without much effort on my part aside from the resizing etc.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521677385.jpg

LEAKYSEALS951 03-21-2018 04:33 PM

Not that you want to play with it, but post processing is interesting too.
Here's Scott's original pic, post 21, on the powershot with about 30 seconds of work in photoshop:
( Well- maybe a 1:30... :) I tried to remove the bluish tint)

Probably a little too overdone. Oh well!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521677546.JPG

Shaun @ Tru6 03-21-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 9970491)
I did see something that might help you Shaun and it's cheap.
It was a plastic jug like a milk carton, only round, where they cut the bottom out and a quarter section of the wall to shoot thru. Set it over the product. It controls the light by diffusing it so you won't end up with that flash hot spot. I would recommend a tripod and no flash if possible too.

edit: Check this thread out as this is where I saw it....

https://www.talkemount.com/threads/trout-lilies.17922/

Thanks Scott, I'll take a look.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-21-2018 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 9970498)
Oh gosh- Totally turn off the flash if you haven't already!
If Scott's idea doesn't work (and that is a good idea)- disable the flash, prop the camera on something solid (like a book of something), program a delay into the shutter fire, hit the button, and step away to get a clearer shot in low light.

A lot of these camera's also have different light settings which need to be played with to get what you want.

In addition to my SLR, I also love the canon powershots. I buy them at will and have them laying everywhere. So versatile and convenient, and even they are too powerful for uploads to pp without lowering the resolution. I think it even has a macro setting. The cool thing about the small point and shoots as you can put them on an el-cheapo tripod and they are so featherweight the whole assembly works.

No flash, never use it.

I've got a tripod, problem is it's tough to use because I typically have large area (1-2 meters of parts spread out) shots and then close-ups. Been trying to hire an assistant for a month now. I think it's a good idea and time/cost-effective for them to use the tripod.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-21-2018 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 9970514)
Shaun - were you shooting under fluorescent lights for the pic you posted?
Those can be hard to get the right color to show up under.

Yes, fluorescent lights with several big windows behind me of natural light.

I think a contributor is the navy fleece I have down much of the time. The tan ultrasuede above takes much nicer pics.

vash 03-21-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Hahl (Post 9970238)
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Comes with 14mm XF 2.8 R (Auto/Manual lens)
Extension tubes
Rokinon 85mm F1.4 (Manual lens)
Canon FD adapter
Canon FD 70-210 F4 (Manual lens)
Battery & charger,
Strap
8gb SD card
58mm Circular Polarizer

Camera shows signs of use but everything functions properly.
Fuji XF14 in excellent condition and functions perfectly.
Rokinon 85 in great conditions and functions as it should.
Extension tubes never used.
Canon FD 70-210 is like new.

Listed for $850 but you would be a repeat customer so I'd go $800 shipped.

Thx. Let me talk to my wife.

beepbeep 03-21-2018 06:13 PM

I have both DSLR (Canon) and mirrorless m43 (Panasonic Lumix).

Last fall I sold off most of my heavy DSLR gear (50 f1.2, 70-200 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8) as it only collected dust.

Now I am mirrorless 99% of time and only use DSLR when I need flash (my flash equipment is Canon-specific).

I actually went so far that I even sold off my Lumix GH1, GH2 and got one of those fancy "superzooms" (Lumix FZ1000) as it has f2.8 lens compared to GH f4.0.

I do not miss the mirror and love decreased size. Besides, it shoots wonderful video!

motion 03-21-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 9970681)
Thx. Let me talk to my wife.

Ahhhhh yes, the old wife excuse :eek:;)

Scott Douglas 03-21-2018 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 9970783)
Ahhhhh yes, the old wife excuse :eek:;)

Hey, wait a minute. Vash never said his wife was OLD. :eek:

RKDinOKC 03-21-2018 09:42 PM

Like my Lumix SZ30 with the 20x Leoca lens with its great low light without as much jpeg noise, GPS, Wifi, and Zoom while recording movies. Even does some nice brainless exposure/focus programming if I could remember where to turn what on. BUT, don't photo much any more. Forget I have the pocket sized camera with me, heck usually even forget my iPhone plus can do good impromptu snaps.

vash 03-22-2018 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 9970783)
Ahhhhh yes, the old wife excuse :eek:;)

yea..i'm old school..i just like to mention purchases to the wife prior to just jumping..

easier that way. not sure what i'm supposedly making excuses for tho..motion.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-22-2018 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 9970491)
I did see something that might help you Shaun and it's cheap.
It was a plastic jug like a milk carton, only round, where they cut the bottom out and a quarter section of the wall to shoot thru. Set it over the product. It controls the light by diffusing it so you won't end up with that flash hot spot. I would recommend a tripod and no flash if possible too.

edit: Check this thread out as this is where I saw it....

https://www.talkemount.com/threads/trout-lilies.17922/


Looked at this and it's a great idea but I will have to fashion something very large to cover a meter's worth of parts spread out. I may also look at putting some velcro around the lights such that I can put this milk carton style filter (as a semi-opaque sheet) over the ceiling lights when I take pics of finished work.

Scott Douglas 03-22-2018 08:23 AM

PM'd you Shaun.

island911 03-22-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 9970534)
Here's an example of my Nex-7's capability, without much effort on my part aside from the resizing etc.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1521677385.jpg

Clean.
What lens?

Scott Douglas 03-22-2018 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9972043)
Clean.
What lens?

That was with my Sony FE 2/28. Only native lens I have for my Sony's. 28mm is not wide enough for shooting cars at shows I've found so I use my old Nikkor 24mm. This shot was taken in a mode that automatically chose 'Marco'.
The resizing for posting really doesn't do justice to how sharp it is.


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