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john70t 03-25-2018 11:31 AM

New 3D software allows real-time digital face changings
 
This tech is even better than the Leia and Tarkenton in Star Wars and is real-time.
I'm sure extensive daily data set collection, say from a laptop camera, will make this almost perfect to fake the identity of another.

(I wonder how long until until Skype "deep fakes" start occurring..when your boss tells you to wire $$ to new account)

The woman on the right is scanned while she speaks.
The digital character on the left mimics.
The character can be person/animal/monster/talking car/anything.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1522001901.jpg


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=siren+unreal+engine+youtube&view=detail&m id=A97C2A6E1739A9BA56AEA97C2A6E1739A9BA56AE&FORM=V IRE

Tervuren 03-25-2018 11:57 AM

What this allows game/movie producers to do is pretty amazing, dropping real human emotion that is difficult to animate into places where it is difficult to safely put humans for cameras.

john70t 03-25-2018 12:18 PM

I'm just wondering if the moves will become retro...
Now anything can be faked.
You might end up with a perfect Sam Spade doing comedy kung fu.

dan88911 03-25-2018 01:07 PM

This is some scary stuff.

Tervuren 03-25-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dan88911 (Post 9975157)
This is some scary stuff.

All we know is a faith based reality of our judgements of what we believe or do not believe. It is hard to get some people to understand this concept but perhaps now you are faced with understanding this concept that all human knowledge is based on belief.

You believe you are speaking with someone on Skype, etc...

Sanity is simply perceived consensus of belief.

motion 03-25-2018 06:42 PM

Very, very impressive.

HardDrive 03-25-2018 06:49 PM

Its close. Very close. Still a bit too perfect to be human, but close enough to be believable. Frightening to think of what will be possible 10 years from now.

WolfeMacleod 03-25-2018 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9975562)
Frightening to think of what will be possible 10 years from now.

I don't want to PARF this up... but especially where politics and dirty tricks is considered....

look 171 03-25-2018 08:39 PM

This will be the spell death for actors and actresses.

biosurfer1 03-25-2018 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 9975606)
I don't want to PARF this up... but especially where politics and dirty tricks is considered....

Now politicians have something to point to when they say "fake news". They will all just claim the video was faked, didn't happen, etc. and oh hey look, here is the technology they probably used to make said fake video.

Tervuren 03-25-2018 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9975677)
This will be the spell death for actors and actresses.

No, it simply takes a higher level of skill to be able to imagine and interact with the digital world that the actress and actor can't actually see when doing the acting.

There is still an actor/actress behind this.

The difference is the real time rendering engine/computing power.

Tervuren 03-25-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 9975678)
Now politicians have something to point to when they say "fake news". They will all just claim the video was faked, didn't happen, etc. and oh hey look, here is the technology they probably used to make said fake video.

Make up, digital editing, the ability to make fake news has been around a long time.

What is new here is the real-time aspect to create the digital character render in such high detail.

The same could of been done years ago but not in real time.

The motion capture technology has been out for a double digit amount of years. As has the ability to create a render like the video in the link.

So the sort of "fake news video" could be made years ago digitally, or with make up and actors/actresses since the invention of film itself.

aigel 03-25-2018 09:39 PM

I am not impressed. It still takes a real person to copy it from. Until it is fully independently programmed, it is just a marionette puppet. So they have a static computer model that gets its life from a human. Also, I knew it was fake the second I heard the British accent out of an Asian woman. :)

It will be good to take it easy on consumption of electronic entertainment. Good luck raising a daughter with good self esteem in the future, if all they see are "perfect" fake humans and then have to post their own pictures to instagram. :eek:

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john70t 03-25-2018 10:08 PM

I'm remembering a split-screen newscast where one reporter was supposed to be in the studio and the other out on-the-scene somewhere. It looked very real. Except then someone screwed up and passed a cup of coffee or walked between sets in front of the green screen. Something to that effect.

I can imagine reporters sitting in their jammys sipping coffee in the kitchen doing their thing.
Same with digital presentations.
Or the news studio adding digital people to a type of crowd event.
Or any other form of manipulation of events.
In time anything will be possible.

Zuckerberg did a very..cough..non-empathetic virtual tour of Puerto Rico right after the hurricane devastated the island.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=zuckerberg+puerto+rico&view=detail&mid=48 D4DC7064770AC3813B48D4DC7064770AC3813B&FORM=VIRE
It was kind of a "oh look there is a collapsed hotel. That is cool" kind of faceplant thing.
But someday there will be AI software which will turn those phrases instantly into "Oh my god that building is destroyed. That is terrible." All real-time.


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