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hcoles 04-09-2018 10:40 AM

What about Face2Face Technology?
 
Anyone see the news and videos on Face2Face technology? IMHO - this could well be very dangerous. Combine this with advanced sound editing and they can use an "actor" to say anything and it looks and sounds like the target said it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk

hcoles 04-09-2018 11:06 AM

Adobe software VoCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l4XLZ59iw

GH85Carrera 04-09-2018 11:28 AM

I feel sure than within a few years (decades) the big Hollywood actors will be on the decline, replaced with digital actors. They will never get arrested, no stupid comments to the press, no off screen anticts to embarrass the studios. And most important, no giant salary to pay. Just a computer program.

And like photos are now, video evidence will become suspect, and no longer considered "proof" of anything.

Tervuren 04-09-2018 12:10 PM

G85, there will still be actors and actresses, just their own personal appearance won't have to closely match what the movie producer wants.

It will put the playing field centered on ability.

The ability to do this stuff and create manipulated TV has been available for quite some time, the difference here is the speed of carrying out the manipulation.

What isn't seen in either of these two videos posted is that there is still a setup process to do what is going on. However, once the setup is done, editing and re-editing can be done much faster.

It still isn't instant and easy(yet), but any TV program that wants to manipulate has already had this available given some time to massage it out.

doug_porsche 04-09-2018 09:33 PM

And reality follows fiction

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

Porsche-O-Phile 04-09-2018 10:04 PM

I've wondered about this with the release of "Star Wars Episode 9" in the not-too-distant future. Undoubtedly there is SOMETHING that will have to be done with the character of Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher). At the end of "Rogue One" there is a bridge scene that connects that plot to the beginning of "Star Wars Episode 4", the original. To get Princess Leia into that movie, she had to be "created" to look as she did back in 1979 - looks, voice, mannerisms, everything. It is very, very well done to the point where it's not possible to tell it didn't involve an actual human being (I've been told that her character was inserted as completely CG, not an age-correct body double or anything like that).

So the bottom line is (and I'm sure there are lots of producers asking the same thing), "why do we need to be paying lots of money to actors / actresses when all we really need is a persona"? Perhaps there are people who will end up selling their "likeness" for use, but will they actually be doing "acting" per se in the future? I'm not so sure. A CG operator can fully control and easily edit anything, rather than having to do expensive retakes with acting talent. The technology is simply that good and only getting better as time goes on.

I'm guessing there will always be some kind of market for acting but it has likely seen (or is about to) its high-water mark in terms of how much money it will command and how much influence the likes of SAG will have. It almost certainly will wane as producers look to sidestep the expensive payrolls and get exactly what they want in far less time and with far less production cost overall.

Nevergrowup 04-10-2018 12:35 AM

https://news.avclub.com/meet-the-actress-tasked-with-playing-princess-leia-in-r-1798259182

It was actually a body double, and a Norwegian one at that!

Nevergrowup 04-10-2018 12:36 AM

Sorry, double post...


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