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GWN7 05-17-2018 04:07 PM

Price of Lumber gone up?
 
Price of Lumber gone up?

I started re-decking my car hauler last fall. Ran out of desire and good weather. But I called a couple places to get prices for 2' X 8" X 16' spruce, needed 11 of them. Was quoted $174 and $178 from lumber places. (+ taxes)

Last week I went and picked up the wood from the place that gave me the cheaper quote. The bill came to $219 +taxes.

I contemplated asking the high school senior at the cash register if prices had gone up but figured why bother. Never heard of anyone complaining about a increase so I'd figure I'd ask here?



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526598318.jpg

What $219 + taxes worth of lumber looks like. While It's stripped down I'm adding more steel under supports. Instead of 24" OC it will be 12" OC That way I can haul a more compact weight like a bobcat.

motion 05-17-2018 04:18 PM

What's wrong with the old deck?

LakeCleElum 05-17-2018 04:28 PM

Always a seasonal adjustment.........More housing starts these days also increases demand. I knew a builder that sometimes ordered his lumber package early winter and stored it till spring....

black73 05-17-2018 04:30 PM

I have seen a lot more Canadian lumber used on large projects like this lately.

http://www.hoar.com/wp-content/uploa...cf_847x476.jpg

In the past, buildings like this were made of concrete and steel. Maybe supply isn't keeping up with demand?

URY914 05-17-2018 04:32 PM

Prices for all construction mat'l is going up. Drywall and metal studs going up weekly in some cases. Tariffs or the threat of tariffs is one of the reasons.

dad911 05-17-2018 04:47 PM

Big time. Blame the latest tropical storm/hurricane. In this case Irma.

porsche930dude 05-17-2018 05:05 PM

It doesnt seem right to use untreated boards But I guess the Pt wouldnt play well with the steel either. I dunno. My redneck sealant as of late has been used motor oil. Soaks in good makes a nice color and seems to work good. Iv even used it on pressure treated wood to give it a better color.

drkshdw 05-17-2018 06:29 PM

Last November I was quoted $24/sheet for subfloor for a house I'm redoing. Now? $32 a sheet. No difference in stock. The same sheets there now were there in November. I assume it's because it's construction season like LakeCleElum said.

wayner 05-17-2018 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10040981)
Canadian tariffs.

Uhmm, U.S. tariffs on Canadian lumber

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41838828

And on our steel too

LWJ 05-17-2018 06:49 PM

I saw a graph last week. Frickin hockey stick!

jcommin 05-17-2018 06:56 PM

We are winning. Be careful what you wish for. Everything is up - metal, equipment stuff. I just ordered a 12.5 ton HVAC from Carrier. The price of this goes up 6% in June. My son is in the metals recycling business - he has seen prices rise, primarily on the fear of tariffs. What it means to you an me - inflation, IMO. The cost gets past on to you and me.

widebody911 05-17-2018 07:09 PM

This is what $1200 worth of lumber looks like

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526609212.jpg

widebody911 05-17-2018 07:09 PM

$900+

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1526609248.jpg

A930Rocket 05-17-2018 07:29 PM

I was just talking to one of my lumber suppliers yesterday about this. It’s gone up the past six months but has really jumped the past 4-6 weeks.

GWN7 05-18-2018 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 10040979)
What's wrong with the old deck?

It's 20+ years old and the edges are getting soft (rotten). Time for new.

Tervuren 05-18-2018 04:37 AM

It is my observation that would be get rich traders of futures can cause some massive whip effects.

It is also my observation(locally) that housing construction is ramping up to bubble ballistic around here.

GWN7 05-18-2018 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 10041034)
It doesnt seem right to use untreated boards But I guess the Pt wouldnt play well with the steel either. I dunno. My redneck sealant as of late has been used motor oil. Soaks in good makes a nice color and seems to work good. Iv even used it on pressure treated wood to give it a better color.

Exactly, pressure treated lumber would react with the metal and eat away at it. The motor oil actually protects the metal of the trailer. Redneck Ziebarting :)

GWN7 05-18-2018 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 10041119)
Uhmm, U.S. tariffs on Canadian lumber

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41838828

And on our steel too

Those tariffs shouldn't effect me as I live in Canada and if you read the history on them every time the two countries go to court over this the USA looses. They owe Canada about $4 Billion now in rebates and just don't want to pay. The funny part is the lumber companies that are being charged are USA owned. :)

GWN7 05-18-2018 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcommin (Post 10041157)
We are winning. Be careful what you wish for. Everything is up - metal, equipment stuff. I just ordered a 12.5 ton HVAC from Carrier. The price of this goes up 6% in June. My son is in the metals recycling business - he has seen prices rise, primarily on the fear of tariffs. What it means to you an me - inflation, IMO. The cost gets past on to you and me.

Scrap (general shred) hit $255 a ton a couple weeks ago. That's gate price if you are a volume supplier you get more. Settled at $230 a ton last week. Last year it was $120-$150

Sooner or later 05-18-2018 05:36 AM

More than just the fear of tariffs. Steep increases for several years. Heavy demand

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/industry/forestry/competitive-forest-industry/forest-industry-economics/weekly-prices

2016 avg 308
2017 avg 411
2018 a vg 528
Last week 543

rfuerst911sc 05-18-2018 06:14 AM

Been to the gas station lately ? Drove by one yesterday diesel was 3.099 and regular unleaded was 2.799 :confused: . On inauguration day we were at 2.000 for regular unleaded ................... I'll stop right there ;)

Zeke 05-18-2018 08:25 AM

12) 16' lengths of T&G clear redwood 1 x 6 and a few Rdw 2 x 4's plus one 4 x 4 post for a fence vertical extension. Price out the door — $997.00 !!!

Client wanted to continue the extension another 24' in length so I went back for more and it was $460.

Glad he's a rich cat. Wood fences are out of the question anymore.

Rtrorkt 05-18-2018 08:27 AM

Trump's tarrifs

Tervuren 05-18-2018 10:42 AM

As I understand it, this is only collected from companies that are given the timber free by the Canadian government and is proportional to market costs for the timber land harvested.

It is just an equalization of some players. Any company that owns or leases its own Timber land would not be effected?

I'm fairly certain the real driver is a spike in demand, the long bull market has people buy crazy.

Sooner or later 05-18-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10041773)
As I understand it, this is only collected from companies that are given the timber free by the Canadian government and is proportional to market costs for the timber land harvested.

It is just an equalization of some players. Any company that owns or leases its own Timber land would not be effected?

I'm fairly certain the real driver is a spike in demand, the long bull market has people buy crazy.

I think you are correct. It is a pissing match that has gone on for decades.

KFC911 05-18-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10041773)
....

I'm fairly certain the real driver is a spike in demand, the long bull market has people buy crazy.

I don't think it's market related....the housing debacle of a decade ago just took years to recover from....nothing new was being built around here until 3-4 years ago, and it's been steadily increasing since...everywhere I go. Pent up demand....and you know what....people are still addicted to cheap credit....which sucks :(. I'd bet most of the new buyers are still mortgaged to the max....it's the new American way....

Tervuren 05-18-2018 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10041798)
I don't think it's market related....the housing debacle of a decade ago just took years to recover from....nothing new was being built around here until 3-4 years ago, and it's been steadily increasing since...everywhere I go. Pent up demand....and you know what....people are still addicted to cheap credit....which sucks :(. I'd bet most of the new buyers are still mortgaged to the max....it's the new American way....

A pick up where it left off will likely result in a repeat. It is nuts around here.

john70t 05-18-2018 11:55 AM

For the last few years no contractor would even bother to return my call to look at the job.

I'm only flexible small fry piecemeal project work. Perfect for down times. The big fish go for big food in the meantime. But after a few years, after the large scale projects are all built to saturation, after the money has been spent on Escalade pickup trucks and timeshare interest/maintenance payments, they will be hungry again. Thankfully.

JJ 911SC 05-18-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10041773)
As I understand it, this is only collected from companies that are given the timber free by the Canadian government...

Let me know how to do that so I'll get rich too...

speeder 05-18-2018 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10041426)
Been to the gas station lately ? Drove by one yesterday diesel was 3.099 and regular unleaded was 2.799 :confused: . On inauguration day we were at 2.000 for regular unleaded ................... I'll stop right there ;)

What I’d give for $3.09 diesel here. It’s $4 and rising. Seems to happen whenever a certain political party takes office, really strange...

And yes, EVERYTHING is going up, yugely. It’s all in the plan. :rolleyes:

RSBob 05-18-2018 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10042344)
What I’d give for $3.09 diesel here. It’s $4 and rising. Seems to happen whenever a certain political party takes office, really strange...

And yes, EVERYTHING is going up, yugely. It’s all in the plan. :rolleyes:

No worries about tariffs and our increased oil exports abroad because we all have so much more money due to tax cuts! I am still figuring out how to spend last months extra $16.00. Oh the possibilities. :D

speeder 05-18-2018 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSBob (Post 10042349)
No worries about tariffs and our increased oil exports abroad because we all have so much more money due to tax cuts! I am still figuring out how to spend last months extra $16.00. Oh the possibilities. :D

Exactly. The tax cut for regular people is a joke while for multi-millionaires, it’s large. And the cost of everything goes up, not in a small way. Usually, they just cause some extra drama in the Middle East but this guy is special, he’s attacking the middle class from several directions. :(


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