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Interesting '86 944 Turbo Widebody

Saw this during the Indy Mecum broadcast this weekend. I don't know how much longer they'll leave these cars up (they usually take it down fairly quickly), so I screencapped these shots. It sold for $24K.



No. 4 of 4 Widerstandsfahig Widebody Outlaw Porsche 944s
Turbocharged 2.5L engine
5-speed transmission
Black with Black interior
Custom hand-crafted widebody
Custom 3-piece wheels built specifically for these cars
Original front splitter
Project Nine 944 Split Bumper rear wing setup, the only known 944 with this setup
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Lightweight carpet package and rear seat delete

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That rear diffuser is a joke though.. how is that ever going to do anything if it's 1-2 feet off the ground?
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That rear diffuser is a joke though.. how is that ever going to do anything if it's 1-2 feet off the ground?
Air traveling under the car has only one escape route, out the tail.

Managing that squeezed air as it expands upward and outward into the wild blue wander by any means possible to cut down on it's turbulence will help cut down drag.

Close proximation to the ground for the diffuser will however maximize it's effects.

Nice car, hope it never gets rear ended.
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I would have expected it to go for more than $24K..esp at Mecum
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That rear diffuser is a joke though.. how is that ever going to do anything if it's 1-2 feet off the ground?
According to an EX-CNN article, Turbos are good at gripping up steep angles.

It needs the clearance to get on those steep angles.
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Overall, I like it. It seems well sorted. Yeah, um, not feelin' that rear diffuser! That wing is a bit much, too.
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so are the qtr panels steel?

factory?

sorry I'm not up to date on fofos.
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so are the qtr panels steel?

factory?

sorry I'm not up to date on fofos.
I don't think that thing is remotely factory. I believe it's a relatively recent aftermarket modified car which makes some of the descriptions more funny, "original front splitter" and "No 4 of 4" are my favorites.
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ah I see.

wasn't there a fofo cup? did those cars have wide bodies?
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so are the qtr panels steel?

factory?

sorry I'm not up to date on fofos.
There is a French company, jacquemond, that does a lot of extra wide body stuff for P Cars.

Looks like their work.
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Air traveling under the car has only one escape route, out the tail.

Managing that squeezed air as it expands upward and outward into the wild blue wander by any means possible to cut down on it's turbulence will help cut down drag.

Close proximation to the ground for the diffuser will however maximize it's effects.

Nice car, hope it never gets rear ended.
Air needs to stay under the car and carry speed before that diffuser has any use.

It doesn't have a flat floorpan
The air will be turbulent

the side skirts are not low enough
the air will get out on the sides

And the diffuser is not wide enough
air can expand on the corners , next to the diffuser

Diffusuer hangs above where the air is supposed to come from under the chassis
air can expand , below the diffuser

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Air needs to stay under the car and carry speed before that diffuser has any use.

It doesn't have a flat floorpan
The air will be turbulent

the side skirts are not low enough
the air will get out on the sides

And the diffuser is not wide enough
air can expand on the corners , next to the diffuser

Diffusuer hangs above where the air is supposed to come from under the chassis
air can expand , below the diffuser

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Good points but only wind tunnel testing or track times will clear the air.......

It is not optimal or textbook classic, that much is obvious.
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As a former owner of an '86 951 (944 turbo), my thoughts:

-The ride height seems higher than stock in the rear.
-Everything under the hood looks stock other than some powder coating.
-The fenders and wheels do look a little wider. I wonder how much more they weigh?

Overall, it seems like it would add some significant weight without really improving performance. This is a car that made around 250 hp and weighed 2900 lbs. stock. It looks to me like it's a stock motor pushing somewhere north of 3200 lbs. Most of the stuff hanging off of that car would have to be much closer to pavement for the desired effect so it's just mostly added weight for show.
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big fooking wing = more drag as well
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This looks to be stock, does the one originally posted have side skirts?

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Another black 944

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The rocker panel does sitck out more in the one first posted, makes the door look like it's set back, not flush.

A lot less drag and weight on the stock car, I'll say that much.
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This looks to be stock, does the one originally posted have side skirts?



The rocker panel does sitck out more in the one first posted, makes the door look like it's set back, not flush.

A lot less drag and weight on the stock car, I'll say that much.
Not remotely stock. Both the front and rear have been flared by a few inches. Look at the rear in both of these photos, the contour is VERY different.

Yeah, front and rear widened, rockers more like the stuff that you saw on the "street" 935 style cars that were done in the 80s, the front end and rear splitter and spoiler. But otherwise, someone appears to have slapped a body kit on a 944t and put it at an auction to make a quick buck. This looks like the Barnum and Bailey school of car sales.

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Project Nine 944 Split Bumper rear wing setup, the only known 944 with this setup
Yeah, there's a reason for that, hahahahahah.
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