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pwd72s 06-08-2018 04:32 PM

Early in the 8th
 
In the College baseball super regionals.

Beavers up over Minnesota 8-1

Since the tournament began..all opponents 5 runs. Beavers? 43

pavulon 06-08-2018 04:57 PM

How is Luke Heimlich seen out there?

pwd72s 06-08-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10066916)
How is Luke Heimlich seen out there?

That the full story has not been told...some think he was railroaded into a plea bargain deal.

Anyway, 8-1 beavers final. On to Mississippi State & Vandy. I'm kinda rooting for the Dogs for this one..because of the Cinderella finish that got them to this point. Behind, 2 out..last batter hitting a grand slam for the win.

How can you not love college baseball?

herr_oberst 06-08-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 10066928)
That the full story has not been told...some think he was railroaded into a plea bargain deal.

How can you not love college baseball?

His older brother doesn't think that this self-confessed child molester was railroaded into anything.

That no major league baseball team is picking up a lefty that throws 98mph tells me that backgrounds and histories have been checked, double checked and triple checked, and in the final analysis, this is the story that has been told.

My respect for Pat Casey has gone from full-fledged to non-existent. My respect for Beavers Baseball has gone from full-fledged to non-existent. There was a chance to do the right thing a couple of years ago, but the moment passed and now this is the primordial ooze that Beaver Baseball fans get to wade through.

pwd72s 06-08-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10066954)
His older brother doesn't think that this self-confessed child molester was railroaded into anything.

That no major league baseball team is picking up a lefty that throws 98mph tells me that backgrounds and histories have been checked, double checked and triple checked, and in the final analysis, this is the story that has been told.

My respect for Pat Casey has gone from full-fledged to non-existent. My respect for Beavers Baseball has gone from full-fledged to non-existent. There was a chance to do the right thing a couple of years ago, but the moment passed and now this is the primordial ooze that Beaver Baseball fans get to wade through.

So obviously you know the full story. :rolleyes:

herr_oberst 06-08-2018 08:30 PM

I don't know the whole story. I know this. The major league owners did not want this ugly story to be true. They spent a lot of time and a lot of money checking out every angle. The superfans and apologists can say what they want, how the Oregonian raked up the muck to destroy this kid.
The owners don't have that emotion. For MLB owners, the bottom line is money. They know that this kid is a talent on a level with Sandy Koufax, and there is not a single one who did not want to take him to a World Series win, or ten...because it really does look like he has the goods...
yet, in two drafts, not one team picked him. Not one team is willing to take a chance.

Do you think that the Yankees or the Cubs or the Dodgers didn't spend everything it took to look under every rock, interview every witness, check out every rumor to try and see if there was any chance that this kid could be clean? Do you believe for a minute that the Detroit Tigers wouldn't make damn sure that there wasn't some way to get this kid on their roster?

It's unfortunate, but Luke is dirty now, and I think Pat Casey sat on the story to protect his legacy and insure more wins for the Beavs. I hate it that it happened, I really really do, but the story of a girl who's life was changed forever when she was six years old is a lot more important than a College World Series.

But that's my opinion; Others have different opinions. The boards are full of people who support Luke wholeheartedly. I used to and I was proud of Beaver Baseball, but no longer.

(By the way, if you want to really hate the Oregonian, I'm ok with that. Recall how when they broke the story about Neil Goldschmidt, the initial headline said that he had "had an affair" with a 14 year old. Grown, married men do not "have affairs with" 14 year olds. The Oregonian forever lost my respect with the way they tried to keep Goldschmidt relevant after that story broke.)

pwd72s 06-08-2018 09:27 PM

That Goldschmidt headline prompted me to cancel my home delivery of that rag. No regrets on my part there.

tabs 06-08-2018 11:24 PM

Wben there are billions to made what does it matter that some 6 year old girl has some bad dreams.

Crowbob 06-09-2018 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10067079)
...Do you think that the Yankees or the Cubs or the Dodgers didn't spend everything it took to look under every rock, interview every witness, check out every rumor to try and see if there was any chance that this kid could be clean?...

I don't know anything about this story but in my opinion it doesn't make sense for a club to commit any resources to this research hoping to find innocence.

No club wants the controversy, guilty or not, proven or unproven. This is a PR nightmare MLB does not want.

Look at what the Kaepernik story did to the NFL and what K did was nothing in comparison to this allegation.

I wouldn't spend one dime trying to clear this kid. The league would never let him on the field, anyway.

Tobra 06-09-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10067140)
When there are billions to made what does it matter that some 6 year old girl has some bad dreams.

Apparently so, leads me to think people in the know don't see the dollars there. Guys with the checkbooks say no, it is no.


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