U.S. toy giveaway in Iraq is bombed

[fintstone]

Looks like those "modern minutemen" beloved by the left are back at their "freedom fighting" ways again.

Washington Post
November 25, 2005

Bomber Bloodies U.S. Toy Giveaway

At Least 31 Iraqis Killed; 22 Die in Other Violence

By Ellen Knickmeyer, Washington Post Foreign Service

BAGHDAD, Nov. 24 -- A suicide attacker steered a car packed with explosives toward U.S. soldiers giving away toys to children outside a hospital in central Iraq on Thursday, killing at least 31 people. Almost all of the victims were women and children, police said.

In all, 53 people were killed in bombings and gunfire across the country, including two American soldiers who died in a roadside bombing near Baghdad. The U.S. military also reported the deaths of four American troops on Wednesday.
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[Nathans_Dad]

This kind of stuff is exactly why the terrorist (oops, I mean INSURGENTS) will lose in Iraq. Without even commenting on the "right and wrong" of it, it is a HUGE tactical error. The Iraqi people are getting tired of their loved ones getting blown up in the name of Allah. Once the people decide they have had enough of the "insurgency" then it will be overwhelmed by the people...not the US or Iraqi military. Once you start seeing terrorists being beaten to death in the streets by mobs...then you know the insurgency is over...I predict it will start happening in the next 6 months at the rate they are going...

[CRH911S]

Looking at this from a different perspective, what were the soldiers doing handing out toys to the children in the first place?

Seems like anyone with half a brain would know better. What strategy, that creates opportunities such as these, can be considered beneficial when the outcome is known well in advance?

Our only intention by this supposed generous act is to gain a foothold for information purposes only. Unfortunately, the freedom fighters of Iraq are way ahead of Bush again.

Our troops are not responsible for these blood bath political policies, the Cheny/bush administration is.

[dtw]

They are suicide "attackers" now? Gimme a break.

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by CRH911S
Looking at this from a different perspective, what were the soldiers doing handing out toys to the children in the first place?

Seems like anyone with half a brain would know better. What strategy, that creates opportunities such as these, can be considered beneficial when the outcome is known well in advance?

Our only intention by this supposed generous act is to gain a foothold for information purposes only. Unfortunately, the freedom fighters of Iraq are way ahead of Bush again.

Our troops are not responsible for these blood bath political policies, the Cheny/bush administration is.

So you'de rather we not give anything or try to restore things? You'de rather we leave the power and water off, and not bring it up to standard? Huh? Just so you can win political battle? I'm sorry, but I dissagree.

[RANDY P]

Originally posted by CRH911S
Unfortunately, the freedom fighters of Iraq are way ahead of Bush again.

Our troops are not responsible for these blood bath political policies, the Cheny/bush administration is.

"Freedom Fighter" you say?

women and children (their OWN) are killed off and you call them Freedom Fighters?

The ends justify the means right?


EDIT: Blame the bloodshed on Bush right? A Political agenda and that's your justification? Never mind. You're sick.

This reasoning is exactly why I'd never have "blue state values"

rjp

[aap1966]

Originally posted by CRH911S
Looking at this from a different perspective, what were the soldiers doing handing out toys to the children in the first place?

Seems like anyone with half a brain would know better. What strategy, that creates opportunities such as these, can be considered beneficial when the outcome is known well in advance?

Our only intention by this supposed generous act is to gain a foothold for information purposes only. Unfortunately, the freedom fighters of Iraq are way ahead of Bush again.

Our troops are not responsible for these blood bath political policies, the Cheny/bush administration is.

OK, I'll look at it from your perspective.......handing out toys to kids is some sort of war crime, but those that deliberately target women and children are "freedom fighters"?

Hey, I've just found a new definition for "obscene perversion of reality"

The real irony is that those "war criminals" would lay down their life for yours without a second thought.

[CRH911S]

The Cheny/bush policy is to expend the lives of non-combatants with the hopes of a reversal of Iraqi support for the insurgency. But this OK? And it's OK to put our troops at risk for this? This is obscene and this is the reality.

[RANDY P]

Originally posted by CRH911S
The Cheny/bush policy is to expend the lives of non-combatants with the hopes of a reversal of Iraqi support for the insurgency. But this OK? And it's OK to put our troops at risk for this? This is obscene and this is the reality.

Simply misleading and self - serving. Where is this written as fact?

[dd74]

We won't win until we nuke the region. Nuke it, and then we'll see what happens...

[Nathans_Dad]

I think we have a new winner for leftie wacko of the month...CRH takes the cake...

[RoninLB]

All reality must pass through the far left political filter because they control the DNC and have big bucks to spend.

[CRH911S]

Where is this written as fact?

US toy give-away in a active combat zone. Where you expecting a different outcome?

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
I think we have a new winner for leftie wacko of the month...CRH takes the cake...

OK, time to come clean. Who is the "rightie wacko of the month?"

This board has a polarizing effect. Let's see if you have been able to maintain any objectivity.

And no fair voting for Mul. He has a lifetime achievement award

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by CRH911S
US toy give-away in a active combat zone. Where you expecting a different outcome?

I thought you were a little nutty myself, but that's a fair point. Unfortunately the whole country is an active combat zone. But hey, we've only been there two and one-half years

[RANDY P]

You guys are pretty clever.

No, really.

rjp

[speeder]

Man, I feel sorry for the troops that are assigned to any high-profile PR operation in Iraq right now, they might as well have targets on their backs. But then that is how I feel about the whole operation; our military is being put in way more danger than necessary because of the administration's incompetence with the whole mess.

[fintstone]

Soldiers hand out food, toys and candy almost every day. Their intent is to help others. They often collect these themselves and even buy them from their own meager salaries. Targeting innocent children is reprehensible. Even if you give the terrorists the benefit of the doubt that they were targeting GIs and the children were considered dispensable.....ow you can romanticize their actions and call them "freedom fighters" is beyond me.

[Tervuren]

Originally posted by fintstone
Soldiers hand out food, toys and candy almost every day. Their intent is to help others. They often collect these themselves and even buy them from their own meager salaries. Targeting innocent children is reprehensible. Even if you give the terrorists the benefit of the doubt that they were targeting GIs and the children were considered dispensable.....ow you can romanticize their actions and call them "freedom fighters" is beyond me.

And US sodliers have been doing this for a long long time. I perosnly know a few WWII vets in beoth theators, and have read stuff from WWI and Korea, personly know Vietnam vets, and have read as much of Viet as I get my hands on. Its not a sudden thing. Its just something US soldiers have done for decades when in a foreign warzone. They suffe,r and they know what people are suffering, so try to bring a little joy into the war zone.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by fintstone
Soldiers hand out food, toys and candy almost every day. Their intent is to help others. They often collect these themselves and even buy them from their own meager salaries. Targeting innocent children is reprehensible. Even if you give the terrorists the benefit of the doubt that they were targeting GIs and the children were considered dispensable.....ow you can romanticize their actions and call them "freedom fighters" is beyond me.

Where have you been? I don't think they are freedom fighters, the leaders of Iraq think they are freedom fighters.

Iraq's Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders have not only agreed that the U.S. should make a timetable to leave Iraq, they have also agreed it's permissible for insurgents to kill U.S. soldiers.

Pretty good, huh? Yep, we are definitely winning this war. Its just that the Iraqis don't realize it like you do Fint.