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Thumbs up Congressman wants all 'czars' to testify

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By Jordan Fabian - 09/09/09 10:11 AM ET

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) on Wednesday called for President Obama's "czars," or appointed high-level advisers, to testify before Congress about their "authority and responsibilities" in the executive branch.

The president's "czars" have become a point of controversy among his opponents because they do not have to be confirmed by the Senate as cabinet-level officials do.

McHenry wrote to committee chairman Edolphus Towns (D-N.Y.) and ranking member Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) asking the appointed officials to testify.

"If the czars have high-level, decision-making authority as their titles would indicate, then it is my concern that their appointment without Senate approval represents a circumvention of our Constitutionally-mandated confirmation process," McHenry, who is a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in his letter.

Czars were in the spotlight again after "green jobs" czar Van Jones' resigned this weekend. It was revealed that Jones made harsh comments about Republicans and signed a "truther" petition alleging that the government played a role in the 9/11 attacks.

"His ability to slip into a position of power without due Congressional diligence only further underscores the necessity for a confirmation process," the third-term Republican said of Jones.

However, the actual number of czars in the administration is a disputed matter. McHenry requests that all of President Obama's 44 czars testify before Congress. But other reports put the number at around 30.

The North Carolina Republican did not provide a list of the 44 czars he wants to testify.

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Yes, it is a problem.

Most prior presidents (Republican and Democrat alike) limited the number of "czars" to one or two--yes, they were all an affront to the Constitution, but at least there was an attempt to limit the damage. Most had a "drug czar" and one other "czar" for a high-priority agend item.

Obama has 44 czars.

I think this speaks to his complete novice status as an administrator more than anything. He is unable to prioritize and scared of offending, so he give everyone an equal seat. The consequence? Nothing will get done. I've said it before, but his administration will eventually degrade into public infighting as he is unwilling to step in and settle disputes between various factions. I believe the private infighting has already begun. It has to have. Without boundaries, direction, or priorities, each faction is busy trying to stake out as much territory for itself as possible.
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The problem is that McHenry is a complete nobody. Boehner and McConnell should be doing this and plenty of others not in Congress.
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Seem it also begs the Q; why don't we know exactly how many czars we are paying for?
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An instructive article from the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/29/AR2009072902624.html

"The biggest problems that we're facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that's what I intend to reverse when I'm president of the United States." -- Sen. Barack Obama, March 31, 2008
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Wow. Great article.

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At last count, there were at least 32 active czars that we knew of, meaning the current administration has more czars than Imperial Russia.

The administration has a Mideast peace czar (not to be confused with the Mideast policy czar), a Sudan czar and a Guantanamo closure czar. Then there's the green jobs czar, sometimes in conflict with the energy czar, who talks to the technology czar, who sometimes crosses paths with the urban affairs czar. We mustn't forget the Great Lakes czar or the WMD czar, who no doubt works hand in hand with the terrorism czar. The stimulus accountability czar is going through a rough time right now, as is the TARP czar -- but thankfully they have to answer to the government performance czar. And seemingly everyone falls under the auspices of the information czar. In a government full of duplicative bureaucracies, adding more layers with overlapping responsibilities hardly seems the way to go.
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Yes, it is a problem.

Most prior presidents (Republican and Democrat alike) limited the number of "czars" to one or two--yes, they were all an affront to the Constitution, but at least there was an attempt to limit the damage. Most had a "drug czar" and one other "czar" for a high-priority agend item.
Ha,ha,ha, I can't even stop laughing a that one.
These are some of the ones Bush appointed.
One or two, that's funny.

Jeezus christ, Does Fox say there was only 2?
Wow! Does that station have no shame?


Cyber Security Czar
Regulatory Czar
AIDS Czar
Bird Flu Czar
Intelligence Czar
Health IT Czar
Katrina Czar
Manufacturing Czar
Drug Czar
Domestic Policy Czar
War Czar
Copywright Czar
Abstinence Czar
Mine Safety Czar
Latin American Czar
WTO Health Czar
Corruption Czar
Privacy Czar
Health Czar

http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/30/eric-cantor-all-of-george-w-bush’s-‘czars’-were-totally-fine-but-obama’s-really-piss-me-off/
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Yes, it is much easier to justify Obama's excesses when you slap a title on some of his predecessor's people after the fact.

Why the blind devotion to Obama dip? Can the man do anything wrong? Is it possible for him to disappoint you or will you just adjust your expectations to meet his meager delivery?
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Quick checking indicates Bush had well over 30 czar positions held by 40+ individuals.

The modern czar system actually flourished under former President George W. Bush who persuaded a Republican Congress to authorize the president to share classified information with anyone of his choosing. Prior to this law, only persons confirmed by the Senate could have such privileges; and, so, prior to this law, there were few czars as federal law limited what documents they could see or secrets that could be shared with them. President Obama now enjoys this and other unconstitutional, yet congressionally-created, Bush-era presidential powers.
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So czars seem to reflect blind-spots for the POTUS. Apparently BarryO should have dark glasses and a white cane.
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Quick checking indicates Bush had well over 30 czar positions held by 40+ individuals.
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So how does that jibe with Obama's pledge to reverse this trend?
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Quick checking indicates Bush had well over 30 czar positions held by 40+ individuals...[/I]
W/in the first 9 months?

I'd like to see the list with dates (coming and going) AND did his czars actually have expertise in the subject (bird Flu etc)?
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W/in the first 9 months?

I'd like to see the list with dates (coming and going) AND did his czars actually have expertise in the subject (bird Flu etc)?
It doesn't matter. Even though Bush could do no right, the fact that he also did it makes it just fine for Obama to do the same. Nevermind his campaign pledges.
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W/in the first 9 months?

I'd like to see the list with dates (coming and going) AND did his czars actually have expertise in the subject (bird Flu etc)?
Yeah, like the arabian horse trader he put in charge of FEMA.
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So, in other words, dips; ya got noth'n


but this is funny; Demcrats bittch'n about Bush's "Katrina Czar"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4762546

how times change...
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W/in the first 9 months?

I'd like to see the list with dates (coming and going) AND did his czars actually have expertise in the subject (bird Flu etc)?
Info is out there.

You started the thread without vetting what you posted.

Do your own homework.
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Info is out there.

You started the thread without vetting what you posted.

Do your own homework.
Where did I post inaccuracies? Chris said most have just a few. Those here making reference to GW do not support his comment of 'most presidents...' Just the last president.

Anyway, the demo-underground; I liked the complaint of Bush having more czars than Russia.

Funny, these Dems are so silent on BarryO's quick build-up of Czars, and outraged at GW's slow build-up of Czars. --all in the light of BarryO's commitment to undo this practice. --Priceless.
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Where did I post inaccuracies? Chris said most have just a few. Those here making reference to GW do not support his comment of 'most presidents...' Just the last president.

Anyway, the demo-underground; I liked the complaint of Bush having more czars than Russia.

Funny, these Dems are so silent on BarryO's quick build-up of Czars, and outraged at GW's slow build-up of Czars. --all in the light of BarryO's commitment to undo this practice. --Priceless.
Did not say that you posted inaccuracies.

You posted a piece about R concern of circumventing the Constitution by the appointment of a lot of czars. A practice not unique to Obama and in fact enabled by the previous administration.

And for the record, Obama stating that he would reverse the trend and seemingly not following thru on that is BS on his part and he deserves to be called on it.

But they are two separate topics.
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What you seem to miss, about all of this, is that the concern has been heightened by BarryO appointing a radical. Sure there were gumblings about the potential for abuse with all of Bush's appointees, BUT under Obama that potential has been made real.

You can't pretend that Van Jones was not just wrapped in green. And then there is Mark Lloyd, among others.

Obama is ABUSING this practice. and doing it big. ...all the while saying he's not, and that he's against it.

fwiw, a dated version (not showing the current count for Team-O)



Per: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
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