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1st act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11?

Would Fort Hood count as the first act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11?
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What about the Anthrax scare?

Or the DC Sniper?

Or the VA Tech shooter?

Or the NIU shooter?
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Yes, this was an attack on America by a home grown Muslim.
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Terrorist act you ask?

Fort Hood's 9/11
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NO....this guy SNAPPED....he is of Muslim hetitage and transposed/projected his own struggles with being a muslim after 911 unto the larger issue and thought people were out to get him because he was a muslim. Get it?
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What about the Anthrax scare?

Or the DC Sniper?

Or the VA Tech shooter?

Or the NIU shooter?
I would lump anthrax in with 9/11.

DC Sniper, VA Tech Shooter or NIU, don't recall if they were islamist.

It's the reason that I asked.

Maybe I should have rephrased to include Islamic terror.

Who one-starred this? I can't even ask a question without getting the one star treatment?
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NO....this guy SNAPPED....
That's the impression I get also.
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^^^ From what little has been released about this Tabs, I'm not convinced.
He lobbied over an extensive period of time to essentially be given 'consciencious objector' status, that much sounds rational.
Also, NPR reported today that he was sent to Ft. Hood because the Army wanted experienced doctors to supervise him, his past history of medical practice was apparently sub-optimal at best. So, after getting the US Taxpayer to fund his medical education his (arguably rational) plan was to suck at being a doctor and hope the Army will let him skate on his service obligation?
My bet is that his being readied to ship out was the catalyst that pushed his killing spree forward, a last act of horrific futility...............but I'm no psychologist
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NO....this guy SNAPPED....he is of Muslim hetitage and transposed/projected his own struggles with being a muslim after 911 unto the larger issue and thought people were out to get him because he was a muslim. Get it?
he snapped because of his violent muslim brainwashing. Get it? it was an act of islamic terrorism. A religiously motivated murder. Nothing more, nothing less.
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No. Doesn't fit the definition.
"Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack)"

Crashing planes into buildings is terrorism, because people were terrified to fly.
The DC sniper was terrorism because people were terrified to leave their house.
What supposedly happened at Ft Hood isn't terrorism because I have not heard any reports of military personnel being terrified to show up for readiness.
The manipulation of the 'terror alert color codes' by the Bush administration was terrorism.
What the US did to Iraq is terrorism.
Shooting doctors who perform abortions is terrorism.

There are lots of terrorist activities happening everyday.
Ft Hood just isn't one of them.
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If he was not a Muslim would he have behaved the same way?

He will deny it but he is a liar and a coward. He had many other options but chose to kill those he has been taught to hate. This religion of peace is the only one in this time and place that advocates killing those who are innocent and for no reason but to eradicate those who they can not tolerate.

I have nothing against Muslims but I do have something against those who want me dead.

This is PC over the top and there will be more of these "adverse effects" until we get the message.
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Would Fort Hood count as the first act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11?
I don't think so.

Treason? Definitely.

Terrorism? No.
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If he was not a Muslim would he have behaved the same way?

He will deny it but he is a liar and a coward. He had many other options but chose to kill those he has been taught to hate. This religion of peace is the only one in this time and place that advocates killing those who are innocent and for no reason but to eradicate those who they can not tolerate.

I have nothing against Muslims but I do have something against those who want me dead.

This is PC over the top and there will be more of these "adverse effects" until we get the message.
Reports today are that he was harassed pretty mercilessly by his christian underlings.
Now, I doubt the volunteers in the Army are a braintrust and the things reported were pretty silly but,here is what I heard today.

He was constantly getting his car keyed and dirty diapers were thrown on and in his vehicle with something like " Turbin" attached.

Maybe what happened on that base is a microcosm of what is happening all over.
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Minding our own business will not change the fact they want us all dead and won't stop until it is a reality. That not my interpretation but theirs.

I wish you were right in this case.
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Reports today are that he was harassed pretty mercilessly by his christian underlings.
Now, I doubt the volunteers in the Army are a braintrust and the things reported were pretty silly but,here is what I heard today.

He was constantly getting his car keyed and dirty diapers were thrown on and in his vehicle with something like " Turbin" attached.
OK, so he was just a good American and has a good "Schoolyard Bully Victim" defense.

But what about the other 3-4 shooters? Why did they do it?
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NO....this guy SNAPPED....he is of Muslim hetitage and transposed/projected his own struggles with being a muslim after 911 unto the larger issue and thought people were out to get him because he was a muslim. Get it?
I don't get it. This Muslim attacked soldiers ready to deploy. This was his way of killing the infidels who were about to go into battle. The radicals praised him as a hero of Islam.
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DC Sniper was definitely terrorism:

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Part of his testimony concerned John Allen Muhammad's complete multiphase plan. His plan consisted of three phases in the Washington, D.C. and Baltimore metro areas. Phase one consisted of meticulously planning, mapping, and practicing their locations around the DC area. This way after each shooting they would be able to quickly leave the area on a predetermined path, and move on to the next location. John Allen Muhammad's goal in phase one was to kill 6 white people a day for 30 days (180 per month). Malvo went on to describe how phase one did not go as planned due to heavy traffic and the lack of a clear shot and/or getaway at different locations.

Phase two was meant to be moved up to Baltimore. Malvo described how this phase was close to being implemented, but never was carried out. Phase Two was intended to begin by killing a pregnant woman by shooting her in the abdomen. The next step would have been to shoot and kill a Baltimore City police officer. Then, at the officer's funeral, they were to create several improvised explosive devices complete with shrapnel. These explosives were intended to kill a large number of police, since many police would attend another officer's funeral.

The last phase was to take place very shortly after, if not during, Phase Two. The third phase was to extort several million dollars from the United States government. This money would be used to finance a larger plan. The plan was to travel north into Canada. Along the way they would stop in YMCAs and orphanages recruiting other impressionable young boys with no parents or guidance. John Allen Muhammad thought he could act as their father figure as he did with Lee Boyd Malvo. Once he recruited a large number of young boys and made his way up to Canada, he would begin their training. Malvo described how John Allen Muhammad intended to train all these boys with weapons and stealth, as he had been taught. Finally, after their training was complete, John Allen Muhammad would send them out across the United States to carry out mass shootings in many different cities, just as he had done in Washington, D.C. and Baltimore
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Reports today are that he was harassed pretty mercilessly by his christian underlings...
New majors in the medical field do not have underlings.
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New majors in the medical field do not have underlings.
Wouldn't enlisted personnel be below an officer?
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