US ranks bad on health care!

[scottbombedout]

UK health system 'most efficient' - Health - News - AOL News

MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL: AN INTERNATIONAL UPDATE ON THE COMPARATIVE PERFORMANCE OF AMERICAN HEALTH CARE

The Commonwealth Fund -- Health Policy, Health Reform, and Performance Improvement

How has this happened?

[The Gaijin]

It has more to do how Americans care for themselves. Diet and all that rot.

[Rikao4]

if the UK is # 1..
best to be way down that list..

Rika

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by Rikao4

if the UK is # 1..
best to be way down that list..

Rika

But you dont have any actual physical experience of the UK, only anecdotal.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

UK health system 'most efficient' - Health - News - AOL News

MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL: AN INTERNATIONAL UPDATE ON THE COMPARATIVE PERFORMANCE OF AMERICAN HEALTH CARE

The Commonwealth Fund -- Health Policy, Health Reform, and Performance Improvement

How has this happened?

Nope, sorry. Ain't buying it.

[Head416]

That's why Obama is fixing it!

[Tobra]

This is mostly due to how it is measured and what parameters are deemed to be "important"

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

How has this happened?

By citing known/vocal advocates of socialized medicine, and getting the predictably biased "findings", that's how.

[Rikao4]

my exp. are with the German system..
and the tales from the crypt (UK) are scary..
so your right about that..
doubt that even you believe this..

Rika

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

By citing known/vocal advocates of socialized medicine, and getting the predictably biased "findings", that's how.

ah right, so the Commonwealth Fund are a bunch of Commie/Pinko/*******s/Socialists?

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

But you dont have any actual physical experience of the UK, only anecdotal.

Well, even per the AOL article you posted, Britain is second-to-last in the "long, healty, productive lives" catagory.

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

Well, even per the AOL article you posted, Britain is second-to-last in the "long, healty, productive lives" catagory.

Absolutely true. So that part of the article is true?

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

ah right, so the Commonwealth Fund are a bunch of Commie/Pinko/*******s/Socialists?

Let me break it down Barney-style for you: They are a non-profit org. that specifically advocates, and supports government health "solutions". Their "research" should be taken with a boulder of salt IMO.

[cstreit]

THe UK is ranked #1?

Yeeeahhh... Well that pretty much negates THAT survey.

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by cstreit

THe UK is ranked #1?

Yeeeahhh... Well that pretty much negates THAT survey.

Because you have specific experience of the UK healthcare system how exactly?

[BeyGon]

They must be using the UK dental program, that has to be the reason they are at the top. Or is it the gene pool studies where they only want babies with spaces between their front two teeth.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

Because you have specific experience of the UK healthcare system how exactly?

Do you have specific experience of the US healthcare system as of recently?

Oh, and here's a counterpoint to your article. Not the first time the Commonwealth Fund has been called out on their "research":
Commonwealth Fund Scorecard Unfair to USA

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

Do you have specific experience of the US healthcare system as of recently?

Oh, and here's a counterpoint to your article. Not the first time the Commonwealth Fund has been called out on their "research":
Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog: Commonwealth Fund Scorecard Unfair to USA

No, but where exactly in this thread have I run-down the US health system?
I'm looking for answers, not someone to have an easy get out and say 'well if the UK is number 1 the survey must be false/rubbish.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by scottbombedout

But you dont have any actual physical experience of the UK, only anecdotal.

National Health killed my Grandfather. They thought he was a hypochondriac and sent him home. He died of an aortic aneurysm.

You don't even want to know about my grandmother. It caused my mother to leave the England.

[scottbombedout]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

Oh, and here's a counterpoint to your article. Not the first time the Commonwealth Fund has been called out on their "research":
Commonwealth Fund Scorecard Unfair to USA

'David Hogberg is a member of The National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative, free-market think-tank established in 1982 and located on Capitol Hill.'

A conservative think tank 'calls out' the Commonwealth fund. Interesting.