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Mark Corallo, a spokesman for President Trumpís legal team (professional liar) says:

Fusion GPS = Steele dossier = DNC = Veselnitskaya

Just because a lawyer says something doesn't make it true.

No proof has been offered up, only some disinformation and rumor mongering.

Question, why would these three stooges meet with anyone pretending to be representing the Russian government two weeks after Trump securing the republican nomination?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Oh btw...

MOSCOW (AP) ó The Russian lawyer who has been thrust into the spotlight following reports of her meeting with President Donald Trump's eldest son was a largely unknown figure until she began to represent the son of a Russian official in a major money-laundering trial.

Natalia Veselnitskaya's name has not been linked to government officials, the pro-Kremlin political party or major pro-Kremlin NGOs. The law firm where she is listed as managing partner, Kamerton Consulting, is based in a Moscow suburb and does not even have a website. A staff member at Kamerton told The Associated Press Veselnitskaya was unavailable for comment on Monday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-thrust-trump-campaign-scandal-155247826.html
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Hypothetical question...if someone says they have 'dirt' on your political opponent and want to hand it to you is that collusion?

Is that in any way illegal?

Is it in any way immoral?
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I found this:

Trump Team Met With Kremlin-Connected Lawyer | The Daily Caller
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The Daily Caller reported in January, after the Steele dossier was published by BuzzFeed, that Fusion GPS was involved in the anti-Magnitsky push. The firm was hired last year by BakerHostetler, a white shoe law firm that was also working for Prevezon.
A link from the above leads here:
Oppo Researcher Behind Trump Dossier Linked T | The Daily Caller
EXCLUSIVE: Oppo Researcher Behind Trump Dossier Is Linked To Pro-Kremlin Lobbying Effort
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Adoption cases are linked to the Magnitsky Act because of Putin’s response to passage of the law. The autocrat enacted a ban against American citizens adopting Russian children.
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Hypothetical question...if someone says they have 'dirt' on your political opponent and want to hand it to you is that collusion?

Is that in any way illegal?

Is it in any way immoral?
Hypothetical question: if Trump lies, but nobody believes him and therefore nobody is misled, is it still a lie?

Trump and the kids have consistently denied exactly the sort of meetings that we now know took place.

Mueller can just st sit back and watch them self-destruct.
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The real prize in all this, of course, is that Trump's entire agenda grinds to a halt as he scrambles to do damage control.

The Resistance is proving to be highly effective.
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Now Manafort, Kushner and Donald Jr are suspects.
Televised hearings?
The list is getting bigger, not smaller.
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Hypothetical question: if Trump lies, but nobody believes him and therefore nobody is misled, is it still a lie?

Trump and the kids have consistently denied exactly the sort of meetings that we now know took place.

Mueller can just st sit back and watch them self-destruct.
Lol...right....nice answer and right to the not point.
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The real prize in all this, of course, is that Trump's entire agenda grinds to a halt as he scrambles to do damage control.

The Resistance is proving to be highly effective.
Some truth there...and if all of this turns out to be BS then what? Simply an attempt to disrupt the process of Govt.?

You will be happy that fake news, BS stories and innuendo grid locked Congress?
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Vive la resistance!

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Now Manafort, Kushner and Donald Jr are suspects.
Televised hearings?
The list is getting bigger, not smaller.
Lol, yes Inspector Clouseau
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Two scoops...c'mon...an ex mouthpiece can answer a simple question...how about post #23
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The real prize in all this, of course, is that Trump's entire agenda grinds to a halt as he scrambles to do damage control.

The Resistance is proving to be highly effective.
Are you saying the real object ("prize") of all this is not to investigate and find actual illegal activity, but rather to use unfounded accusations and invented allegations to bring President Trump's agenda to a halt while he confronts them?

Progressives...
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Now Manafort, Kushner and Donald Jr are suspects.
Televised hearings?
The list is getting bigger, not smaller.
Some are currently under investigation, and some are "persons of interest".

This may or may not change those titles.

Trump Team Met With Kremlin-Connected Lawyer | The Daily Caller
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The disclosure of the meeting raised eyebrows on Saturday given the ongoing investigations into possible Trump-Kremlin coordination.

Manafort is also reportedly under federal investigation because of his lobbying work for Kremlin-connected groups, and Kushnerís Russian business ties have reportedly made him a person of interest in other federal probes.
I think it's fair to say, Trump himself is a "person of interest" considering his close relationship with these three men.
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Are you saying the real object ("prize") of all this is not to investigate and find actual illegal activity, but rather to use unfounded accusations and invented allegations to bring President Trump's agenda to a halt while he confronts them?

Progressives...
Yes, that is what they have been saying and that is the purpose....that is what they rule as 'winning' today.

Global fascists is the appropriate term.
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His agenda has grinded to a halt all by itself...and the Mueller investigations haven't even surfaced.
The cease fire he negotiated in Syria has already fallen apart.
The beyond laughable statement that he and Vlad were going to work together to defeat cyber crimes has been withdrawn...not even a GOPPER except for the clowns here could keep a straight face on that one.
19 of the 20 members of G20 are embarrassed for America.
Repealing the ACA...not so fast. Seems like people actually like having health care ( who knew).
Yet the ball washing machine of Parf runs 24/7, non stop.
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Nothing will come of this.

Of course objectivity will continue to die an excruciatingly slow death thanks to the left but this? More gristly innuendo and lies churned out by what is now becoming an industry. An entire industry based on nothingness; created solely by those whose only mission, truth be damned, is to destroy.

The resistance will continue...
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Some are currently under investigation, and some are "persons of interest".

This may or may not change those titles.

Trump Team Met With Kremlin-Connected Lawyer | The Daily Caller


I think it's fair to say, Trump himself is a "person of interest" considering his close relationship with these three men.
I knew manafiort and Kushner are being given extra scrutiny, due to their shadiness.
Now Trump Jr is walking himself into the mess.
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I knew manafiort and Kushner are being given extra scrutiny, due to their shadiness.
Now Trump Jr is walking himself into the mess.
Yeah, getting good now and lots of splainin to do

The Times ‘exposť’ on Donald Trump Jr. is a big yawn

The news was delivered by the New York Times in the breathless tones that might announce a cure for cancer or the discovery of life on Mars:

“President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.”

To which a rational response is … who wouldn’t? And also: So what? A third response is unprintable.


Just as the “Russian collusion” fantasy — a resentful smear cooked up in the immediate aftermath of Clinton’s stunning defeat last fall — was finally fading from the fever swamps of the “resistance” and its media mouthpieces, along comes the Times with a pair of journalistic nothingburgers.

They first reported that Trump Jr., along with Paul Manafort (then the campaign manager) and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, met with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer “linked to” the Kremlin, back in June, shortly after Trump had clinched the Republican nomination. The second claimed she’d promised dirt on Clinton and the Democrats in order to entice Trump Jr. and the others.

According to the younger Trump, the Clinton angle was just a ruse: “Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered,” he told the Times.

The real reason, it seems, was that Veselnitskaya wanted to lobby for the repeal of the Magnitsky Act, an Obama-era law that allows the US to deny visas to Russians thought guilty of human rights violations. In retaliation, the Russians promptly ended the adoption of Russian orphans by Americans.

And that’s what all the fuss is about? No campaign in its right mind would turn down an offer of information on their opponent. That is what opposition research is all about. You can bet Hillary wouldn’t have hung up on the person who claimed to have dirt on The Donald. After all, the Clinton campaign lobbied the comedian Tom Arnold two days before the election to release potentially embarrassing footage from Trump’s TV show, “The Apprentice.” Arnold declined.

But in the end, the lawyer had nothing, gave nothing, got nothing in return, in a meeting that lasted 20 minutes. This is a scandal?

Having established the smear of “collusion,” the Times must now link every story with the word “Russia” to it in the hopes that the rubes and suckers won’t stop believing that Trump somehow cheated his way into the White House.

Hasn’t the Times learned its lesson from its disastrous Feb. 14 story, also anonymously sourced, about the Trump campaign’s “repeated contacts with Russian intelligence”? In his congressional testimony last month, former FBI Director James Comey said: “In the main, it was not true.”

But then, so are the other “collusion” stories the left is trying to peddle as proof of some sinister plot to subvert democracy. And all because they refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election. As the president might say: Sad!

http://nypost.com/2017/07/09/the-times-expose-on-donald-trump-jr-is-a-big-yawn/
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