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The more the merrier. Keeps them distracted from choosing a real candidate.....
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This is funny. I love these threads.

How many Russian threads do we have now?
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The more the merrier. Keeps them distracted from choosing a real candidate.....
I'm enjoying the silliness... lol

Meanwhile do "they " realize how fatigued the average person is with this rubbish?
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The more the merrier. Keeps them distracted from choosing a real candidate.....
Why do we need to pick a candidate, anybody will beat Mike Pence, if he's still around.
Unless you fellas run Ryan Seacrest next time, I think it's a lock for the Dems.
Midterms included.

Does Ryan like Russians? He's about as soft as trump, and they're gonna want a piece of him too.

Why not cut out the middleman, and just run Putin?
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I'm enjoying the silliness... lol

Meanwhile do "they " realize how fatigued the average person is with this rubbish?
The average person didn't vote for trump.
Only about 23% did.
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The average person didn't vote for trump.
Only about 23% did.
True but what has that got to do with this current silliness? lol
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........ and just run Putin?
Dems should consider it, He's less corrupt than HRC. And knows how to enforce the FOIA.

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The average person didn't vote for trump.
Only about 23% did.
About the same percentage for Hillary. Math much?
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'WASHINGTON ― When Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, sought damaging research on Hillary Clinton from a Russian lawyer, he may have violated campaign finance laws against soliciting contributions from foreign nationals.

Campaign finance laws specifically prohibit political candidates and their associates from soliciting or receiving anything of value to benefit their campaign from foreigners. In addition, the law bans campaigns from providing “substantial assistance” to a non-citizen who is trying to improperly influence a U.S. election.


In his public statements to The New York Times and on Twitter, Trump Jr. clearly stated that he met with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer for powerful Russian oligarchs, at Trump Tower in June 2016 because he wanted to acquire negative information about his father’s Democratic presidential rival.

On Monday, Common Cause, a nonpartisan, nonprofit watchdog group, filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission asking for an investigation.

“He did in my view violate the prohibition on soliciting a contribution of a foreign national,” Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert at Common Cause, told HuffPost.

The alleged illegal contribution would be any opposition research that Veselnitskaya purported to have about Clinton. Campaign finance law defines “contribution” broadly. In this case, the opposition research would qualify as an illegal in-kind contribution. At least one past opinion issued by the FEC found that “information” could qualify as “something of value” that would make it an in-kind contribution. According to Trump Jr., the lawyer ultimately didn’t provide any useable information.

The ban on foreign campaign contributions also defines “solicitation” broadly. Both explicit and implicit suggestions from campaign officials that a foreign national provide something of value could be classified as solicitation. Even if he did not obtain the information as a contribution, as Trump Jr. has stated, he still sought it.

“He went into a meeting expecting to and hoping to get some good opposition research on Hillary Clinton, and he acknowledged that he was disappointed that this isn’t what happened at the meeting,” Ryan said in describing Trump Jr.’s stated intent to receive the contribution of opposition research from Veselnitskaya.

Common Cause’s complaint against Trump Jr. does not accuse the president’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, nor his former campaign manager Paul Manafort, of wrongdoing, even though they also attended the meeting. Ryan explained that since Trump Jr. claims he did not inform Kushner or Manafort of the meeting’s purpose, they couldn’t have knowingly joined the meeting with an intent to solicit an illegal contribution.

The complaint was sent not just to the FEC but also to the Department of Justice and special counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller, the former FBI director, is leading the independent investigation into accusations that Russian intelligence services hacked the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, and that the Trump campaign was involved in the meddling.

“It is up to special counsel Mueller to determine if this was illegal,” said Fred Wertheimer, head of the watchdog group Democracy 21.

What stands out for Wertheimer in Trump Jr.’s admission is that it is apparently “the first concrete example of the Trump campaign turning to Russians to try to influence our elections.”

Trump Jr.’s apparent solicitation of opposition research from a Russian national may also provide more evidence to bolster legal arguments that the Trump campaign violated the laws on aid from foreign nationals, corporations or governments.

Bob Bauer, a White House counsel under President Barack Obama and a longtime Democratic Party lawyer, argues in a series on the Just Security forum that the Trump campaign’s alleged law-breaking is “hiding in plain sight.”

Bauer argues that the Trump campaign had already provided “substantial assistance” to Russia’s hacking and information campaign by widely disseminating the information illegally obtained through the hacks. Trump clearly found the information valuable and he helped promote it. Trump mentioned WikiLeaks, the online site through which the hacked emails were publicly distributed, 124 times in the final month of the campaign and brought up WikiLeaks during the televised debates. Additionally, candidate Trump famously called for Russia to hack Clinton’s private email server, a statement that came less than 60 days after his son met with the Russian lawyer.

Both Common Cause’s Ryan and Democracy 21’s Wertheimer told HuffPost that simply relying on Trump’s campaign pronouncements would not, in their view, be enough to qualify as the “substantial assistance” that would be a violation of the law.

Trump Jr.’s meeting with the Russian lawyer, however, bolsters the case, Bauer claimed in a post Monday. He wrote that Trump Jr.’s admission that he sought opposition research from a Russian national “supplements” the legal argument “by corroborating that what the campaign was pursuing through private channels were the same goals ― help from the Russians — that were strongly indicated by the candidate’s words and related public behavior.”

The Trump campaign and the White House have repeatedly denied any effort on the campaign’s behalf to contact or cooperate with Russian nationals in attempts to influence the outcome of the election. White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders reiterated this at Monday’s press briefing, saying, “The president’s campaign did not collude in any way.”

Later Monday, Trump Jr. announced he had hired Alan Futerfas as his lawyer. Futerfas is known for representing the Gambino, Genovese and Colombo crime families.'
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Dems should consider it, He's less corrupt than HRC. And knows how to enforce the FOIA.



About the same percentage for Hillary. Math much?
Not true. A higher % would be required to win the popular vote.
Funny guy.
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and Trump is still President
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Not true. A higher % would be required to win the popular vote.
Funny guy.
Oh, lets do this again, maybe you'll get it.....

65845/321000 = 20.5% - HRC
62980/321000 = 19.6% - DT

20.5 is about the same as 19.6 (less than 1%)

Now subtract the dead, non -citizens, and duplicates.... it's even closer.

So ya think if the Russians changed some votes, they'd have stepped it up and made sure?
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Hypothetical question...if someone says they have 'dirt' on your political opponent and want to hand it to you is that collusion?

Is that in any way illegal?

Is it in any way immoral?
The real news here is that Natasha was able to catfish Trump's three top minions into meeting with her at all. Just how stupid, gullible, not ready for prime time, and foolish are these people? The 'dirt' could have been handled a hundred other better ways than having the Three Amigos all present to be scammed. The sad thing is it was probably the Idiot-in-Chief that told them all three to be there.
Now, if it is discovered that there actually was info exchanged....
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The real news here is that Natasha was able to catfish Trump's three top minions into meeting with her at all. Just how stupid, gullible, not ready for prime time, and foolish are these people? The 'dirt' could have been handled a hundred other better ways than having the Three Amigos all present to be scammed. The sad thing is it was probably the Idiot-in-Chief that told them all three to be there.
Now, if it is discovered that there actually was info exchanged....
Yes, if she provided them with dirt is that illegal? How so?
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Yes, if she provided them with dirt is that illegal? How so?
Yes. A campaign is not allowed to conspire/collude/ whatever with a representative of a foreign government, in order to influence a US election.

When she told dummy Jr, that she had damaging information on his fathers opponent.
He should of ran.

Instead he arranged a meeting on US soil and brought 2 members of the campaign.

He's not too bright.
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Look at all the Lawyers they have hired!
Crazy!
They're so crooked!

How many times did the last administration lawyer up?
0?
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From dipso's post.....this is the dumbest/funniest Shiite I've ever read from a supposed adult...

Bauer argues that the Trump campaign had already provided “substantial assistance” to Russia’s hacking and information campaign by widely disseminating the information illegally obtained through the hacks. Trump clearly found the information valuable and he helped promote it. Trump mentioned WikiLeaks, the online site through which the hacked emails were publicly distributed, 124 times in the final month of the campaign and brought up WikiLeaks during the televised debates. Additionally, candidate Trump famously called for Russia to hack Clinton’s private email server, a statement that came less than 60 days after his son met with the Russian lawyer.


Trump mentioned what was 'in the news' and that is 'illegal'....do you guys have any idea how stupid that crap is...that is your story line now....wtf over, drop 100, danger close, fire for effect.
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From dipso's post.....this is the dumbest/funniest Shiite I've ever read from a supposed adult...

Bauer argues that the Trump campaign had already provided “substantial assistance” to Russia’s hacking and information campaign by widely disseminating the information illegally obtained through the hacks. Trump clearly found the information valuable and he helped promote it. Trump mentioned WikiLeaks, the online site through which the hacked emails were publicly distributed, 124 times in the final month of the campaign and brought up WikiLeaks during the televised debates. Additionally, candidate Trump famously called for Russia to hack Clinton’s private email server, a statement that came less than 60 days after his son met with the Russian lawyer.


Trump mentioned what was 'in the news' and that is 'illegal'....do you guys have any idea how stupid that crap is...that is your story line now....wtf over, drop 100, danger close, fire for effect.
Trump said' I could shoot somebody on 5th Ave, and my supporters wouldn't care'

Aren't you embarrassed?
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Uh oh.

Report: Email Sent To Donald Trump Jr. Spoke Of Russian Plot To Aid Trump Campaign | HuffPost
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Trump said' I could shoot somebody on 5th Ave, and my supporters wouldn't care'

Aren't you embarrassed?
No dipso, why should I be embarrassed about calling out fictitious stories....not one of your 'splainin' events has ever panned out or been validated.
They have all ended up in file 13....

Every one of them ...from the vote recount, unfaithful EC delegates to today....we won't even mention your posted pre election articles 'splainin' everything to us.

This too shall pass in a day or so as it has no real meat...it will slowly come apart like every other wishful straw you've grasped.

I'd ask you if you are embarrassed by your track record but I already know the answer.
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