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20 week ban

House Passes 20-Week Abortion Ban


Congress, pro-life leaders discuss different strategies for challenging abortion

The House of Representatives voted 237 to 189 to pass a ban on abortion after 20 weeks on Tuesday.

H.R. 36, officially the "Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act," was reintroduced by Rep. Trent Franks (R., Ariz.) in January; House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R., Calif.) announced last week that the bill would be brought to the floor.

The act would make it a crime to perform an abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Violators would be subject to a fine, up to five years in prison, or both. It would make exceptions for the life of the mother, and for pregnancies that are the result of rape or incest. The act also specifically targets abortion providers; women who undergo an abortion after 20 weeks will not be prosecuted for violating the act’s terms.

Similar bills failed in 2013 and 2015, but this time the bill has support from the White House.

"The Administration strongly supports H.R. 36,… and applauds the House of Representatives for continuing its efforts to secure critical pro-life protections," a statement of administration policy reads. "The bill, if enacted into law, would help to facilitate the culture of life to which our Nation aspires. … If H.R. 36 were presented to the President in its current form, his advisors would recommend that he sign the bill into law."

A 20-week ban would bring the United States in line with the rest of the world. It is currently just one of six nations to permit elective late-term abortion without restriction—the other five are North Korea, China, Vietnam, Canada, and Singapore. The overwhelming majority of European countries ban abortion after the first trimester, just twelve weeks from conception.

The 20-week ban is also supported by the public: a poll in January, 2016 found that 80 percent support "some" restriction on abortions, with 60 percent specifically backing a 20-week ban.

The bill would impact a relatively small number of abortions. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about 1.3 percent of abortions in 2013 were after 21 weeks; about 3.1 percent occurred after 18 weeks in the same year. A 2011/2012 study found that just 34 percent of abortion facilities offered abortions at 20 weeks, and 16 percent at 24 weeks.



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Anti choice people are weird.

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The left so loves their killings. I'm sure they'll fight this with Planned Parenthood at the forefront.
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Certainly reasonable legislation considering the exceptions for the life of the mother, and for pregnancies that are the result of rape or incest, and the fact that the legislation targets providers and not the women.

We do have to remember though that well over 80% of Americans do support abortions, in varying degrees of limitations.
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You might think a reasonable person could make a decision like that in 20 weeks.
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Certainly reasonable legislation considering the exceptions for the life of the mother, and for pregnancies that are the result of rape or incest, and the fact that the legislation targets providers and not the women.

We do have to remember though that well over 80% of Americans do support abortions, in varying degrees of limitations.



Thank you. But now watch planned parenthood go insane.
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so more mouths to feed, more people with their hands out looking for welfare. People that can not afford to have a kid, should not be forced to have a kid. I do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the raising of children who's parents can't afford them.
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so more mouths to feed, more people with their hands out looking for welfare. People that can not afford to have a kid, should not be forced to have a kid. I do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the raising of children who's parents can't afford them.
So you'd rather have your tax dollars subsidizing the killing of children whose parents can't afford them ??

If that's your position, I defend your right to hold that view even though I disagree, but at least think things through.
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isis and our nut-con's both support abortion bans

I try not to support most things isis likes
why do you support very similar ideals to isis ?
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isis and our nut-con's both support abortion bans

I try not to support most things isis likes
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A child favours what others like.
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An adult makes up their own mind.

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so more mouths to feed, more people with their hands out looking for welfare. People that can not afford to have a kid, should not be forced to have a kid. I do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the raising of children who's parents can't afford them.
At some point the sanctity of life has to be taken into consideration.

We could say that when you grow old and become feeble that we should just off you as the cost of keeping you alive is too high.

I have to agree that after 5 months another parameter has to apply.
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You might think a reasonable person could make a decision like that in 20 weeks.
Agreed.
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so more mouths to feed, more people with their hands out looking for welfare. People that can not afford to have a kid, should not be forced to have a kid. I do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the raising of children who's parents can't afford them.
They are saying you can't just provide an abortion after five months. Five months is a long time, and a very developed fetus. Children born at 22 to 23 weeks can sometimes survive. This is not taking away a woman's choice, it is setting a time limit on when you can chose. For all intents and purposes a fetus is a child at five months, even at one pound.

I see this as a fair piece of compromise legislation.
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At some point the sanctity of life has to be taken into consideration.

We could say that when you grow old and become feeble that we should just off you as the cost of keeping you alive is too high.

I have to agree that after 5 months another parameter has to apply.
I particularly like that first sentence.
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so more mouths to feed, more people with their hands out looking for welfare. People that can not afford to have a kid, should not be forced to have a kid. I do not want my tax dollars subsidizing the raising of children who's parents can't afford them.
how do you feel about the death penalty all those convicted murderers have on them while sitting in death row, knowing it will never happen because of liberal dummies. kill babies ok, kill murderers, oh hell no.
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so it is better you just want to eliminate health ins for kids like that
so they can die NATURALLY
o I feel so much better now
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We could say that when you grow old and become feeble that we should just off you as the cost of keeping you alive is too high.

I have to agree that after 5 months another parameter has to apply.
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The left so loves their killings. I'm sure they'll fight this with Planned Parenthood at the forefront.
Yep, the left and the various wayward GOP politicians.
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At some point the sanctity of life has to be taken into consideration.

We could say that when you grow old and become feeble that we should just off you as the cost of keeping you alive is too high.

I have to agree that after 5 months another parameter has to apply.
Protect the fetus so some guy with a grudge can randomly shoot/kill them later in life. What a great society.
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