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66 911 rustbucket
i got a 66 911 its got a 3litre with a 5 speed carberated.i was tryin to sell the car,everyone who called about it wanted pics of the pan..so i started pokin around under the car,it had some floor replacement done on it,(really ****ty)so i have a custom shop (super rat)..and i figured i'd take the car off the market,fix the rust,repaint the car cuz i hated the color,then try n sell it,well i tore the car down to a skeleton and started wire wheeling the whole undercarriage,well theres rust holes beyond the replaceable floorpans,the bottoms of the tunnels on each side of the car including the jack locations,i can cut all this out and replace it,but im wondering if theres a point where its just not worth it to mess with a car and just part it out?..on the other hand im thinkin of turning this car into a street/track type car since its already been bastardized....i dont know that much about 911's since im mainly a motorcycle and aircooled vw guy.but the engine has a sticker on the shroud that says 930 turbo,does this mean the longblock could be turboed without having to mess with the engine internals much?i'll try get some pics up tommorow,thanks in advance for any help.
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a vw guy ? me to i got bit by the vw bug when i was just a kid . as for the 911 like our beloved vw the pans always go . but unlike our vw parts cost alot ! i would say sell it as is . as you know when you start some thing like that it some times turns into a money pit . and you my get more money for it but you have to look at your profit margin .
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yeah,but im just fartin around on this in my spare time.plus i got the whole car tore down to nothin now!
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Welcome to the board.
If you remove the engine transmission and rear trailing arms (and front suspension possibly depending on your front suspension). You can put it on your jig (or rotisserie it). There are inner and outer rocker panels to replace. 66 3 l with carbs. Super Rat. Awesome build worth it. Regards, |
installing a unabody car on a rotisserie in most cases is not a good adea . if you do you have to cross brace the hell out of it . and then it makes it a pain to work around the bracing . what we do in my shop is square up the car on a frame bench . we made the ones we use for resto's out of I-beams . but in my frends shop he made one out of 6 by 6 wood beams .
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yeah,i was plannin onbracing the crap onthe inside.also ,should i just spend a thousand bucks on a new floor or try n just do it in sections?well,im really gonna try n get some pics up tommorow,i was on the couch all day today with the butt flu.
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ok so theres some pics of the car and engine,sorry there so lousy...i threw a pic of a cool bike im building in there too...no reason really,its just fun to look at
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As you can tell from my name, been there, done that. Look at the date of the first posted picture and I can tell you that, 3+ years later, I'm still not done. It should be painted this spring. I would do it again and looking at your car, there's not much left of value to part out so rebuilding it is the only way for you to gain value. Mine was done on a rotisserie but keeping car straight is a problem, especially when it's time to fit the body panels back together.
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wow,i was gonnaty n fix mine in a couple a weeks,do you have any pics of the work as you repaired it?
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What makes you think it's a '66 911 ?
Or was that a typo for '76 ? Do you have the VIN number ? Could that be a 930 with a carb 3.0 engine ? |
i think its a 930 motor,at least thats what the engine block says...the title to the car says 1966,but i cant find the vin # on the car anywhere,i dont know much about porsches,so i dont know where to look.but if the innards of the motor wouldnt have to be worked over too much,i'd like to twin turbo innercool it ......no?
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The whole process has been documented with photos to help others others out. Let me know what part of the car you want to start with and I can send you lots of helpful pics
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mainly some pics of the floor from the pedal assembly to the rear seat would be cool,thanks!
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that things a wide body i was thinking it was a 66 that someone put a 6 cylinder motor in . i would say its a 86 to 89 . is the radio ant. in the front glass and is the 3rd brake light in the rear glass . the drivers door jam or the drivers side dash should have the vin . do you have a clear photo of the info label . i take back when i told you to sell it for parts fix it !
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The VIN number may also be in the trunk, either on an aluminum plate, or in front of the smuggler's box. The engine number should be on the right side of the fan housing, close to the timing chain cover. |
ok,the rear glass has a third brake light,but theres no vin on the dash or by the smugglers box,the front of the driver side doorjamb has a small plaque with a karmman porsche with a 5 or six digit #.i can take a pic of it.is there any hidden spots for a vin on the car?where the cops check?
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Super Rat- that 6 digit number should be the whole VIN- my '66 is 303734. Is yours similar?
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i keep forgetting to take a picture of the vin plate on the door,im moving my shop to a new location,but i'lltry n remember it tommorow
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ok,i finally got the numbers off the inside front of drivers door jamb. 454478 i dont know if that means much t anyone,could the dealer tell me what year it is?
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there should be 12 to 14 character for your vin # the 10th character tells you the year of the car . on an early 911 look for the alloy plate on the front panel or its stamped in the metal behind the fuel tank left side . on later 911's ,993's and 996's its stamped behind the spare tire .
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If I remember correctly, this is a '66 912 with a Karmann body.
962, porsche used 6 digit vin until '68. |
I think you have a 912 chassis. I am not positive but I think you do. This wouldn't bother me as I have a 912 chassis with the 901 engine in it. Its the same exact body with less options so it ends up being lighter too. I'd fix it as you can buy everything it needs welded back on pretty cheap. I think you could have it together in a couple weeks.
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dave . yes i know that porsche vin # were 6 digits untill 68 . and when i first read this post i was thinking it was a 912 with a 6 cyl. 911 motor . but then looking at the pics that were posted . i'm thinking mid 80's ???? i gave that # 454478 to a frend at porsche NA to check . when he talked with me that evening he did not have time to check yet .but did not think it was the vin # ? i will send him an email and see if he had time to check the vin # .
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454478
That is a Karmann 912 coupe body from 1966, (4 cly Type 616/36 engine). Take off the lower dash trim under the ashtray and the serial number should be stamped there also. (Porsche built 912 bodies 1966 serial numbers start with 350xxx).
The floor pans, inner and outer rocker panels, both front and rear inner wheel houses, battery tray, gas tank mount, are typical replacement parts, but the spot to really look at is the rear torsion bar tube to the rear wheel house. That area and the torsion bar itself -if that area is bad - the structure of the whole car would be in question. If you are cutting pans, trays and rocker panels there isn't a lot holding the car together. Best to have it on a jig bench or it will be twisted when done. All the critical dimensions and reference points are in the Factory work shop manual. If you choose to work around the car replacing floor panels and other parts one at a time the likelyhood of ending with a twisted body is very high. The previously replaced panels will be your reference points and there is no knowing where they are in relation to the critical measured points. Look here for the Celette bench: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/273002-wtb-celette-fixtures-911-a.html?highlight=Celette |
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