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URO turbo tie rod kit

I know most readers won't admit to having any URO parts on there 911, so getting a response other than " why go cheap on such an important component" is unlikely.
However, I would still like to hear from someone brave enough to admit they have installed the URO Turbo Tie Rod Kit and either tell me there were no problems, or they prematurely failed.

Looking on Ebay or other sites, I see thousands of kits have been sold, and I believe they are (were) even offered here on PP (I didn't see them currently).

This seems to be a topic not mentioned on here, and I don't know why? I am not interested in other URO component complaints, just a real life consensus on this kit. I drive my '78sc about 2,000 miles a year, I don't track, I just go on drives with friends. So I don't need any racing components, just something to replace my tired 40 yo OG tie rods and have contemplating getting the URO brand. I can go see a therapist later about not using Lemfoerder.

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I can go see a therapist later about not using Lemfoerder.
Is there a big price difference between the two kits?
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I put Uro on my 83 SC and the boots on both sides failed completely after less than 1000 miles. They literally tore open all the way around on the large diameter section. I sent them back and the supplier sent me new kits and bellows from Lemfordder. No problems since.
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Is there a big price difference between the two kits?
About 50% the cost of lemfoerders. $80 uro - $190 lemfoerders.

What about TRW? Do they make a kit?
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The boots are junk other then that not sure there is much of issue with them. Over on 914world uro is pretty active in the forum's defending their products..
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From what I can tell - URO is also making a bigger effort to make better products. It was inevitable, as some of the OEM stuff is really jumping into the stratosphere.
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URO's rubber components have historically not been good. In the RWD Volvo community everyone runs away and would rather install USED OE rubber.
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URO's rubber components have historically not been good. In the RWD Volvo community everyone runs away and would rather install USED OE rubber.
I imagine that will change. As prices rise for OE stuff, it'll be easier to manufacture to higher quality standards while still undercutting competition. Also once initial investment is out of the way, they'll be able to scale horizontally more efficiently and increase margin. I think we're a few years removed from more affordable classic car parts. I'm looking forward to it.
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Hi everyone, we received reports of issues with the boots in these turbo tie rod kits several years ago, so in early 2017 we changed the rubber material. We still see the boot problem mentioned occasionally on the forums, so as of Fall 2018 we are going to change the boot material again. The new boots won't be available for some time, so we have temporarily made the tie rod kit unavailable for sale at the wholesale level. (Some retailers might still have them on the shelf though.)

If anyone had boots (or anything else) that cracked or otherwise failed prematurely, please be sure to contact us with your purchase details and your address and we'll get you replacements ASAP. PM us here, or email "sales @ uro parts dot com" (remove spaces).

(Edited to correct rubber boot details.)

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^ Appreciate the effort. You are definitely monitoring the right folks for feedback on your parts.
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So I wonder where we can buy a new kit to ensure I wouldn't be buying an old kit with the potential bad boots?
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So I wonder where we can buy a new kit to ensure I wouldn't be buying an old kit with the potential bad boots?
Edit: We'll post here when the kit with the 2018/2019 updated boots is available.

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URO parts are cheap, you get what you pay for.

If you own a 911, don't be cheap, buy the right parts...
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URO parts are cheap, you get what you pay for.

If you own a 911, don't be cheap, buy the right parts...
Cheap doesn’t always mean bad - it’s good that people get on here and discuss non-OEM options. You and I both know that the same Bosch part for an old BMW and for a 911 have different prices. And we all know that even companies like Bosch are cost cutting like crazy.

Our idle control valve is the same as one in an old Volvo. One costs 100 bucks if you can find it. The other is 400. Same part.

Speed and ref sensors are 50 bucks apiece if you get the BMW versions.

Likewise if other vendors are working to create more cost effective versions of OEM parts we should encourage and support them. Especially if they are on here backing up their product.

@Uroparts - just bought some of your tie rods. I’ll definitely post my experiences on the forum.
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Likewise if other vendors are working to create more cost effective versions of OEM parts we should encourage and support them. Especially if they are on here backing up their product.
This is true. A proactive supplier will continuously improve and eventually nail it. Good job stepping up, URO.
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Cheap doesn’t always mean bad - it’s good that people get on here and discuss non-OEM options.
That's very true Kyngfish, especially given how commodity auto parts are manufactured these days. Unless a brand is a true specialist and only offers one type of product, it's likely that the company has some (or all, depending on brand) of its parts private-labeled from a factory that specializes in a single product type, say suspension bushings or expansion tanks. So if you go to the expansion tank factory, you'll see the same tanks come off the line and go into different brand boxes, yet each brand has a very different MSRP on the store shelf. But all the same part in the box. Of course this isn't the case all of the time, but it happens more than folks realize, even with big-name brands.

And given that different part types come from completely different factories, a good or bad experience with one part (say an expansion tank) has little to do with whether a temperature sensor of the same brand is good or bad quality. Rather than use a broad brush to evaluate entire brands, it's better to look at the reviews for the exact component you're interested in on a site like Amazon, and then buy from your preferred retailer such as Pelican. If a part has a number of verified reviews on Amazon, you'll quickly see if it's a good item or not. We try to keep an eye on Amazon to identify items that are problematic and need corrective action, as it's quick and easy for users to post reviews. Especially with inexpensive items that might simply be thrown in the trash instead of reported and returned for a refund. Defective low-cost items can be really hard to catch, so we try to be extra aware.

So in a nutshell URO offers three levels of parts:
  • First are basic replacement items where price is often the only difference between us and our competitors.
  • Second are components that we specify materials or make minor improvements so we can offer a better product than our competitors, for about the same price.
  • Third, we offer exclusive items where URO the only aftermarket alternative to OEM (or OEM is no longer available), and some really unique URO Premium items that are made using better materials and/or a superior design compared to OEM.

Here are some examples:
- Aluminum Cooling Hose Connector (OE is plastic)
- Stainless-Steel Rear Torsion Bar Cover (plated to look just like the original rust-prone steel cover)
- Aluminum Sun Visor Mounts (OE is plastic)
- Replacement gears for convertible top motors (so you don't have to buy the whole motor assembly)
- Pulleys and Idlers with quality brand-name NTN or NSK bearings




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- Aluminum Sun Visor Mounts (OE is plastic)
I must agree Porsche has really come down in quality, thank goodness companies like URO are here to give us a choice.

I bought two NEW Porsche Visors because the 30 year old original visors finally tore at the seams.

I was really excited to get the new visors but 3 years later the cheap arse plastic broke and p-side started to sag. Loverly, expenisve POS and now forcing me to UPGRADE to Uro Hinges. Thank you URO for being here for alternatives. Just ordered the hinges :-)
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Parts - even Porsche is outsourcing the production of many “factory” parts to China.

If Porsche dropped the price of their parts commensurate with what the parts cost to make (with a reasonable profit margin), I doubt most people would care where the part was made - as long they are quality parts with a good service life.

The problem is that they put the extra profits in the bank and didn’t pass on the production savings to the consumers, and the quality is usually not as good as the original parts.

Quality aftermarket parts at reasonable prices are appreciated by “working” enthusiasts who constantly juggle funds to support their family and hobbies.
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The big problem I've had with URO is they pretty much used the Porsche 911 community for the last 7 years or so as guinea pigs - or I take that back - suckers for buying everything from master cylinders to seals that never, ever fit or worked - and if they did, they had a very limited lifespan and now almost a decade later they are saying that they "re-designed" these very simple Porsche parts to actually work. Brake parts such a 911 master cylinder that can trace its roots to a '55 VW Bug and 911 seals as well never, ever worked if you bought URO. Makes you wonder why it took so long, and why they put many of us through such pain and sorrow. Maybe in another 10 years I will take another chance, but now I will choose the route which saves me more than money - and that's time. Time is more important, and when you have to change a new parts every couple of years you know you've been played.
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