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Artfrombama 01-10-2019 08:39 AM

Caliper Confusion
 
A couple of my calipers need kits but am having some difficulty determining what I have.
The fronts are aluminum, 1 piece. 3.5" bolt spacing
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1547138138.jpg

Rears, two piece, ferrous metal, 3" bolt spacing;
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1547138307.jpg

Muchos gracias!

Harpo 01-10-2019 10:57 AM

Front are "S" and I believe the rear is an "M". Send them to PMB

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 01-10-2019 12:09 PM

+1 for PMB, excellent work.

Brake Calipers

74-911 01-10-2019 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpo (Post 10312140)
Front are "S" and I believe the rear is an "M". Send them to PMB

Same calipers on my '74. I rebuilt the rear "M" calipers with no issues. The front "S" pistons were in bad shape so off to PMB they went. They did a great job and they came back looking like new.

Artfrombama 01-10-2019 04:14 PM

I've noticed a considerable amount of drag trying to rotate the front rims and what seems like an unusual amount of pedal pressure to get the thing stopped.

And looks like a P.O. added the "S" calipers to my "T".

Thanks for the input!

VFR750 01-10-2019 04:27 PM

The aluminum calipers may have corroded to the point where the steel pistons are sticking.

Fixing that S caliper probably needs a professional.

Artfrombama 01-10-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VFR750 (Post 10312453)
The aluminum calipers may have corroded to the point where the steel pistons are sticking.

Fixing that S caliper probably needs a professional.

I've ordered kits, will try it myself first. I've rebuilt many calipers over the years. If the corrosion is extensive after I tear them down the calipers will go to the rebuilders.

Read on the PMB site to "hyperextend" the pistons, then compress them back to allow fluid to lube the seals. Going to try this first.

Dodge Man 01-10-2019 05:21 PM

Check Hoses too
 
The hoses can have internal restriction after decades of use. If hoses are cracked, it may be time. Hoses were replaced and my dragging went away. IMHO: Get the good ATE fluid proper for your brake system model here at Pelican. There are several different ATE fluids so chose carefully and check the ATE web site.

PMB should be able get you going. I got my 3" Brembos from PMB years ago. :)

juanbenae 01-10-2019 06:38 PM

you can likely swap out the 20mm rotors to a 24mm set by getting a pair of 84-88 Carrera fronts. they bolt right up with the thicker rotor and require little to no master cylinder upgrade. when I did the "upgrade" the money I sold the S's for paid for the needing a rebuild caliper set, the wider rotors AND some new steel, open end lug nuts!


so you know, the pads are the same for the late S's you have, the SC & carrera front brake calipers that as I recall are called A calipers? or am I reporting fake news again. ?

Fubawu 01-10-2019 06:45 PM

I believe It was possible that your car came with S calipers as it was an option to order a T with S upgrades minus drive train

Artfrombama 01-10-2019 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fubawu (Post 10312567)
I believe It was possible that your car came with S calipers as it was an option to order a T with S upgrades minus drive train

Could be. My COA lists options as Koni shocks instead of Boge, front spoiler and F&R sway bars.

Artfrombama 01-10-2019 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge Man (Post 10312497)
The hoses can have internal restriction after decades of use. If hoses are cracked, it may be time. Hoses were replaced and my dragging went away. IMHO: Get the good ATE fluid proper for your brake system model here at Pelican. There are several different ATE fluids so chose carefully and check the ATE web site.

PMB should be able get you going. I got my 3" Brembos from PMB years ago. :)

When i changed the fluid I had the bleeder open and caliper was still really tight so I ruled out the hoses.

T77911S 01-11-2019 03:40 AM

if the pistons are stuck that can give a hard pedal, like when the brakes fade.
replace the rubber lines while you are at it.

if you are doing them yourself I cant stress how well the power brake bleeder works from motive.
I just did the bakes on my 930 and the pedal is better than it has ever been, but I also put steel brake lines on.

I use motul 600/660 brake fluid.

Artfrombama 01-11-2019 01:48 PM

Stuck
 
Outboard piston was stuck.
Was able to force the piston out using a homemade tool consisting of an old brake fitting and a grease fitting, pushed the piston out with the pressure of my grease gun.
Not too terribly corroded in the seal area, most of the corrosion was in the dust seal bore.
Ordered kits from Pelican yesterday, received them today. Great service!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1547243218.jpg

(Someone tell me how to index photos properly)

djpateman 01-12-2019 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artfrombama (Post 10312678)
Could be. My COA lists options as Koni shocks instead of Boge, front spoiler and F&R sway bars.

The upgrade to Koni would require the additional upgrade to S calipers as part of the package.


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