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911 Rod 02-25-2019 12:12 PM

New idea on torsion bar foam seal?
 
I need to replace these as they are shot. They don't work very well with polybronz bushings because the pressure of the grease pushes right past them.
Has anyone come up with anything better? Big ass o ring?


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ninelevenick 02-25-2019 01:12 PM

I used car battery terminal post felt pads. Worked like a treat.

911tracker85 02-26-2019 05:32 AM

hmmm dont recall these on my 78 SC. where do they go? in the process of reassembling my suspension front and rear.

piscator 02-26-2019 05:34 AM

Didn't find these on my '79 either. What do they do?

Robert

911 Rod 02-26-2019 05:54 AM

The adjustment caps on the back end of the front torsion bars.
Seal goes under the caps.

David 02-26-2019 06:55 AM

How about the front bushing of the front torsion bars? It's wide open especially if you replace the original tow hooks with the Rennline hooks. I was thinking about stuffing some valve/pump packing in there but a foam ring might be better.

911 SLANT 02-26-2019 07:53 AM

David you should have a dust cap on front of A arm to protect front torsion bar. Maybe yours are missing

jpnovak 02-26-2019 08:09 AM

Neoprene sheet works well. Recycle an old mouse pad...

911 Rod 02-26-2019 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpnovak (Post 10369726)
Neoprene sheet works well. Recycle an old mouse pad...


Not springy enough. Maybe use foam?
$5.00 each from Porsche is starting to sound cheap.

mnez 02-26-2019 08:37 AM

Exactly what I did. The foam ring fit right in and I added some grease to the foam to help repel water. Covers are gone, replaced with Rennline tow hooks. Been there for several years, working perfectly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 10369627)
How about the front bushing of the front torsion bars? It's wide open especially if you replace the original tow hooks with the Rennline hooks. I was thinking about stuffing some valve/pump packing in there but a foam ring might be better.


juanbenae 02-26-2019 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninelevenick (Post 10368803)
I used car battery terminal post felt pads. Worked like a treat.


me too. they are to keep dust out, not so much to water proof.

proporsche 02-26-2019 11:53 AM

actually, the original foams were soaked with some kind oily compound so it was semi- waterproof...it was on every 911 but mechanic were lazy to put them back from my experience;-)

Ivan

911 Rod 02-27-2019 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proporsche (Post 10369979)
actually, the original foams were soaked with some kind oily compound so it was semi- waterproof...it was on every 911 but mechanic were lazy to put them back from my experience;-)

Ivan

And they had completely fallen apart like mine.

proporsche 02-27-2019 06:10 AM

yup ,they will in 25-30 years they do go bad;-) I wonder how long those from nowadays will last;-)?

Ivan

911 Rod 02-27-2019 06:45 AM

I took mine off as I'm doing a major cleaning.
Doubt they will ever come off again.

Lyle O 02-27-2019 07:09 AM

The stock material is an open-cell foam; it's more of a sponge/filter than a seal. If you want a better "seal", you need either a closed-cell foam (think water pipe insulation extrusions), or solid rubber.

juanbenae 02-27-2019 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proporsche (Post 10369979)
actually, the original foams were soaked with some kind oily compound so it was semi- waterproof...it was on every 911 but mechanic were lazy to put them back from my experience;-)

Ivan


most foam based air filters are oiled to aid in capturing and holding dust. im not saying there is no advantage to them in regards to water intrusion, but as I recall they are referred to as dust seals. I agree that them being oiled will also help in repelling water. unoiled they might catch and hold water which as we all get is the worst possible case scenario.

proporsche 02-27-2019 09:08 AM

yup ,good point no wonder the torsion bars were powder coated;-)and they squeak once they are worn out;-)

Ivan

911 Rod 02-27-2019 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proporsche (Post 10370903)
yup ,good point no wonder the torsion bars were powder coated;-)and they squeak once they are worn out;-)

Ivan

No squeaking with the mess of grease from the polybronze bushings.


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