Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,670
Soldering a wire on a glass window

I know this is not the Z4 forum but I am asking anyway.

The power wire to the defroster lines in my Z4 soft top has separated from the metal tab that is glued to the glass. The soft top has a glass window incorporated into the top that cannot be replaced separately.

It looks like I can whip out my trusty Weller soldering gun and reattach the wire. I am concerned that the heat from the soldering gun will stress the rear glass and crack it which will then require I replace the ENTIRE soft top. Does anyone here have any experience to doing this repair without first detaching the tab from the window (it is a pain in the *** to reattach the tab, I have done it 3 times already).

Thanks for your thoughts and support.

__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic
Old 11-09-2020, 12:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
rsscotty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 823
I don't know if this will give you an option, but Loctite makes a electrical conductive glue that is made for rear defogger repair.
Old 11-09-2020, 12:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,670
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsscotty View Post
I don't know if this will give you an option, but Loctite makes a electrical conductive glue that is made for rear defogger repair.
You mean something like this? It is what I used to attached the tab to the window.
__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic
Old 11-09-2020, 12:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Superman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Lacey, WA. USA
Posts: 25,309
I would do everything to avoid using a soldering iron on glass. The glass is laminated, which I assume you know.
__________________
Man of Carbon Fiber (stronger than steel)

Mocha 1978 911SC. "Coco"
Old 11-09-2020, 04:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,670
After much research, I finally tackled this little project.

I decided against soldering because it was unclear if it would damage the glass window.

When I examined the wire closely, I fond it was NOT soldered but glued onto the tab.

A bit of research revealed two options.

Atom Adhesives makes an Epoxy for this purpose: https://atomadhesives.com/window-defroster-repair-kit/.

On my workbench stash, I have the Permatex product pictures above: https://www.permatex.com/products/specialized-maintenance-repair/defogger-repair/permatex-rear-window-defoggerelectrically-conductive-tab-adhesive/

Comparing the products, it seems that the Atom product takes some time to initially cure and needs to be held in place for 24 hours.

The Permatex product initially sets in 1 minute and then you wait 24 hours to complete the cure. This plus the fact I had some on hand led me to use this.

After examining the wire, I found it was an insulated braided wire. I cleaned the wire with acetone (to remove any adhesive), rubbed with emery cloth and used a hammer to flatten the end. I cleaned the window tab with acetone and emery cloth. Followed the instructions for the glue and after 24 hours tested.

Success!
__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic
Old 11-27-2020, 05:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Behind the Sun
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tejas
Posts: 1,046
Great tip!!

I was wondering how to resolder my windshield antenna.

This should do. Thanks
Old 11-28-2020, 06:08 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 13,925
Should be no problem soldering you can use some thermal paste around the area as an extra precaution.

Old 11-28-2020, 08:09 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:08 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.