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speedracer92 07-04-2019 11:14 AM

Local source for threaded clips vs ordering
 
I need two of the clips as shown in the schematic below to mount my tail light. I know I can order them from Pelican, etc. but would like them today/tomorrow as I have my them out and so can't drive without them.

Assume these are regular clips and can be purchased anywhere or do I need something special? Anyone happen to know what size they might be?

Thanks in advance.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562267664.jpg

speedracer92 07-04-2019 11:27 AM

Here's what the one out of the car looks like. It is stripped.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562268456.jpg

mepstein 07-04-2019 11:34 AM

I think they are called "captive nuts". Buy a $.99 thread checker at the hardware store and measure up the bolt size. You might be able to find the nut in the specialty bins at the hardware store.

speedracer92 07-04-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mepstein (Post 10512813)
I think they are called "captive nuts". Buy a $.99 thread checker at the hardware store and measure up the bolt size. You might be able to find the nut in the specialty bins at the hardware store.

Perfect. Thanks.

boyt911sc 07-04-2019 11:48 AM

July 4th...........
 
Do you know what day is today? I doubt you will find any hardware store open today. It is July 4. Most people are at home resting and celebrating our Independence Day celebration or on vacation. Maybe tomorrow (Friday) you could visit your FLAPS and get lucky. For the meantime, relax and enjoy the BBQ & beer. Good luck.

Tony

mepstein 07-04-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 10512826)
Do you know what day is today? I doubt you will find any hardware store open today. It is July 4. Most people are at home resting and celebrating our Independence Day celebration or on vacation. Maybe tomorrow (Friday) you could visit your FLAPS and get lucky. For the meantime, relax and enjoy the BBQ & beer. Good luck.

Tony

Tony. Happy 4th to you. I'm not much of a shopper but all the big box stores are open today. It's a retail sales thing.

speedracer92 07-04-2019 12:26 PM

Yep, happens to be one of the largest shopping days actually. All the big boxes and auto parts stores open it seems. Unfortunately, I am in Retail so our stores open as well, I just happen to be able to work from home today :D Easier for me to enjoy my 4th when I can take a spin in my car! Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 10512826)
Do you know what day is today? I doubt you will find any hardware store open today. It is July 4. Most people are at home resting and celebrating our Independence Day celebration or on vacation. Maybe tomorrow (Friday) you could visit your FLAPS and get lucky. For the meantime, relax and enjoy the BBQ & beer. Good luck.

Tony


Harpo 07-04-2019 01:38 PM

Chances are it is is either an m6 or m8. You might find a "u" nut in that thread size

speedracer92 07-04-2019 02:12 PM

Thanks. Went to 3 different FLAP and all they really had were the ones with just bent metal - no threaded of any size (cause I could change the bolt). The one that I showed in my 2nd post seems to be an M5 because I had one that worked on it. M6 won't go through the tail light housing. don't want to drill it. Looked at amazon also but hard to tell what would fit, etc. so will just order I think and do it right, once. Frustrating that no place carries fasteners really anymore - but with the Internet - know they can't stay profitable for few sales...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpo (Post 10512921)
Chances are it is is either an m6 or m8. You might find a "u" nut in that thread size


Flat6pac 07-04-2019 02:13 PM

It’s a 6 mm J nut using a Phillips screw head.
Bruce

Dpmulvan 07-04-2019 03:17 PM

Remeco or other fastener place will have them. You must have a fastener store somewhere near you in Texas.

tmadden2 07-04-2019 04:00 PM

I used square nylon threaded license plate bracket nuts to replace the corroded and stripped metal captive nuts. They popped in, don’t spin, and will probably outlast the rest of the taillight housing.

Canada Kev 07-04-2019 04:15 PM

Those pieces are available through the dealer as well; that's where I got mine. I couldn't find anything even remotely similar at any hardware or fastener places here.

The clip portion is steel which will corrode fairly easily, which is why I needed to replace mine as it got bad enough that it broke while running out the screw. The threaded part is bronze I think.

speedracer92 07-04-2019 05:22 PM

Thanks for all the responses. I don’t have any of the original clips except that one, so need those in addition to the J nut. Didn’t think about a fastener shop (duh) so will find one of those but in the end, ordering off Pelican may be choice.

MConn 07-04-2019 06:08 PM

My notes list the screw as a 5mm x 20mm pan head phillips.
McMaster has an assortment of captive nuts - https://www.mcmaster.com/clip-on-nuts.
These are known to seize up over time, so you may be drilling out the screw head one day.

Mike

Canada Kev 07-04-2019 07:00 PM

If its important or helpful, I can dig up the part number off the parts I got from the dealer for you.

eastbay 07-04-2019 08:19 PM

Try your local auto body supply - paint shop, they usually have a large supply of trim clips and nuts and such.

tirwin 07-04-2019 08:44 PM

Some people also call them cage nuts.

speedracer92 07-05-2019 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada Kev (Post 10513180)
If its important or helpful, I can dig up the part number off the parts I got from the dealer for you.

That would be great. Assume its a different number than the one on the schematic?

speedracer92 07-05-2019 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastbay (Post 10513218)
Try your local auto body supply - paint shop, they usually have a large supply of trim clips and nuts and such.

Thanks. Around here, they don't carry much at all. A lot online. Need a fastener Place I think...and none open on 7/4 but will try today...

dicklague 07-05-2019 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MConn (Post 10513156)
My notes list the screw as a 5mm x 20mm pan head phillips.
McMaster has an assortment of captive nuts - https://www.mcmaster.com/clip-on-nuts.
These are known to seize up over time, so you may be drilling out the screw head one day.

Mike

THAT is the source I was going to recommend. Use them all the time very reliable, deep inventory, and fast delivery.h

Harpo 07-05-2019 06:30 AM

My local ACE hardware carries a very nice selection of fasteners. Agreed McMaster carr has very quick delivery.

David

Canada Kev 07-05-2019 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada Kev (Post 10513180)
If its important or helpful, I can dig up the part number off the parts I got from the dealer for you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by speedracer92 (Post 10513381)
That would be great. Assume its a different number than the one on the schematic?

Here ya go...

999 507 312 12

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562347477.jpg

donporfi 07-05-2019 09:36 AM

Try Belmetric,
would these fit ?
https://www.belmetric.com/advanced_search_result.html?main_page=advanced_sea rch_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=1ds93da76 4r22il8va1m64kdh6&keyword=cage+nut

Canada Kev 07-05-2019 10:51 AM

Nope, those won't work in the tail light housing application. Those cage nuts are designed for relay racks and cabinets where they clip into the smallish (a bit over a quarter inch) square holes.

ian c2 07-05-2019 12:01 PM

Available at the dealer I use .

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562356872.jpg

speedracer92 07-05-2019 01:51 PM

Thanks. Will try local dealer first and then order if needed. Went to Fastenal and other bolt places and all closed because of July 4th - good for them of course but bad for me ;-)

Canada Kev 07-06-2019 08:54 AM

This is where it's nice to have friends close by that seem to keep lots of extra parts in the garage. I have a bag with six of them sitting here, as I try to buy extra of the parts that seem to be a bit unusual or awkward to locate easily and that aren't super pricy. I'd give you a couple as as you seem to be in a hurry, but Calgary isn't exactly close to Texas... ;)

speedracer92 07-06-2019 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada Kev (Post 10514555)
This is where it's nice to have friends close by that seem to keep lots of extra parts in the garage. I have a bag with six of them sitting here, as I try to buy extra of the parts that seem to be a bit unusual or awkward to locate easily and that aren't super pricy. I'd give you a couple as as you seem to be in a hurry, but Calgary isn't exactly close to Texas... ;)

Yea, that would be difficult to do but appreciate the offer!


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