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Lost Wheel Lock, what to do??

Recently purchase a 1989 - 911. While torquing lugs I noticed a lock on each wheel. Contacted PO, who cant find key, but said the mfg is GT Wheel LOX. Cant find any info on this company on internet. Anyone familiar with this company. Does anyone have suggestions on how to remove. See attached photo, lock looks to be very hard to remove.

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It looks like maybe you've tried the punch and hammer?
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Key lock fabrication.......

Mal,

Try to fabricate a home-made key with pins to loosen the lock nuts. Cut a piece of paper and trace the locations of the pin holes. A socket type or flat bar configuration will do the job. An air-chisel or plain steel chisel would be your last resort. Good luck.

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Another suggestion......

Mal,

Use a cheap 19-mm 6-point deep socket and grind it to produce the correct key. See picture below:



You only need two (2) high points to grab and loosen the lock nut. Remove the blackened area to make the protrusions (2X). This will be my solution to this predicament.

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It looks like maybe a gland nut wrench could work to at least break the lock nut loose. Once you get it a little past flush, you can grab it with something else and turn.
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I had to use my plasma cutter a while back to accomplish this. This was on a steel wheel lug and not a stud though. What was interesting is the plasma cutter was able to cut out the steel lug with no damage to the aluminum wheel. In your case if you use a plasma cutter you'd most likely need to replace the stud.
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The video series garage time showed a homemade key. The guy making the series is on this forum
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If I was faced with that, I would use an airhammer, gingerly, with a pointed bit to get it moving c/clockwise. It's steel, so they don't hole saw very well.
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If I was faced with that, I would use an airhammer, gingerly, with a pointed bit to get it moving c/clockwise. It's steel, so they don't hole saw very well.
+1 air chisel always saves the day. You can always drill the stud out and replace as well.
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Mal,

Tighten the other four lug nuts to 94 ft-lb; I believe this is the max torque for these lug nuts but double check. The lock nut is not on as tight usually so this will help to have it require less torque to remove. You should then be able to use the punch and hammer method or make the tool you need as described above. Also use some penetrating oil and let it soak in for a while.

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If I was faced with that, I would use an airhammer, gingerly, with a pointed bit to get it moving c/clockwise. It's steel, so they don't hole saw very well.
Can you post a photo of what kind of bit tip you'd use ?
It looks like it would have to be pretty fine
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This is a common, ordinary air chisel bit. It would work, I think.

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You can feather the trigger on an air hammer to be somewhat gentle, so not to slip off and damage the wheel. Good to wear eye protection too.
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This is a common, ordinary air chisel bit. It would work, I think.

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Doesn't that seem too fat?

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