1st time full drop newbie question
 

Hi everyone,

This may be the most idiotic post ever (feel free to berate me if you need to - have a go, a divorce grows pretty thick skin!)

So..... I am preparing for my first full drop, was considering partial, many sensible folks here and on Insta have convinced me full is the way to go. Here's the thing... I store my car in my studio. It's basically in my front hallway which is open concept into my living space. Pretty cool place to park the car and do small jobs but I am concerned about doing a full drop here because of potential fuel or oil leaks.

Having never done this before (and I will of course be draining the oil and running my tank to empty beforehand) my question is what should I expect by way of oil leaks or fuel leaks and any other general spillages?

The full drop is to attend to a disconnected breather hose, triangle of death attention, work diligently through Waynes 101 list of "Common Oil Leaks", clean up as much as possible while I am there, replace all vacuum lines, potentially replace CIS fuel lines, its not budgeted for but if its out I know I'll end up adding the turbo chain tensioners.

I would truly be grateful for any advice regarding doing this in my home as I have never attempted anything like this before and would like to go into it knowing a bit more about what to expect.

Thanks!!

Dan

PS> If there is anyone in Toronto who wants to drop by for a drop party, beers and pizza are on me!

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So first off- super cool place you have there!

You will have a tiny bit of fuel spillage when you disconnect hoses, have rags under them and a fire extinguisher nearby. After they have leaked out, cap, plug or cover them.

The two oil lines coming off the engine will still have enough oil to make a mess, so tilt them to get the most out and then plug, cap over even just cover with bags and tape them on.

Good luck, wish I was closer.

Rutager

Cool Porsche cave. Wow.

Should not be much of a leak. Just anticipate the oil gushing out when you disconnect the lines and catch it.

A studio with Porsche in view? Yes please!

My dream is a full blown multi-car garage and shop with a little one bedroom loft!

Cool place! There will be gas and oil odor for a bit. Be diligent with cleanup and you will be okay.

Before you start, get a big thick plastic tarp and put it down to catch the road grime and any oil drips. Big as in put it down on the floor THEN drive the car on top of it.

Awesome

There will be dirt, scum, oil and a little fuel. It's all cleanable.

I applaud your ambition. Budget twice the money you think and three times the time. You'll learn a lot and buy lots of stuff. Take it slow and be very careful. Cars and engines can fall off jacks and jack stands.

Good luck!

I'm doing the same thing right now - honestly the fuel and oil is nothing compared to the cleaning I've had to do! I swear the entire engine was covered in oil, grease and grim - it's the cleaners/vapors that are getting to me - make sure you are well ventilated!

It's nowhere near as bad as it seems. No need to drain the fuel tank, a few drops come out and that's it (well, at least on my Motronic car that's all that comes out.) Oil will continue to drip for a while though, I plug up the lines with a shop rag.

After you get the motor out, you'll wonder what the heck you were fretting about.

Thanks Nick - so planning to do this using my new Quickjack system which seems super stable - just need another 3" out of it for engine to clear with rear bumper removed. My reason for doing this myself is to get to know my engine better, put a sense of "me" into the car and I also realized that I will be saving thousands compared to what my mechanic wuold charge to fix these issues. So fingers crossed it all goes ok!! ;)

Just what I wanted to hear! Thanks!!!!! :)

This is great advice! Thank you! This will change my planned setup a little.. for the better so really appreciate that advice!

Man, that is quite the diggs. As stated earlier, the clean-up is the worst in terms of making a mess and disposal of mess. Proper ventilation and fans to move the air away from your living space is desirable.

Thanks Max! I'm gonna run plastic sheeting between the studio/garage and the rest of my living space and that way I can work with the garage door partway open and I have a floor fan that I could use for air circulation! Thanks for the tip!!

This is so true. I spent sooooooo much time cleaning, refurbing and even painting 40 year old parts. It can get quite messy.

Once it's out, you won't want to put a dirty old part back in. I still wish I had a parts cleaner, but steel brushes, degreaser and elbow grease works wonders as well.

Clean motor is a happy motor!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1572621826.jpg

Grab some kitty litter. Cool place!!

Also, would you mind sharing about your QuickJack? What model? How good? How much clearance under the car etc?

Beautiful!!!

Oh yes - I am super happy with it. The model for our cars is the B5000SLX (the EXT is too long, the 3500 too short). Raises the car so that the bottom of the rear reflector is 29" from the floor. I need another 3" to get the engine out with the rear bumper removed so my choices are:

• Drop at 29" and remove CIS while engine is below car to have room to then pul engine and trans out from under the car

or

• Add 4" of height by screwing together 2 2"x8"s and playing this eon the Quick jack with the jack blocks then on top of those.

I am very happy with it. You can see the car going up and down for the first time on my instagram @79.outlaw and I will be doing a video detailing the jacking points and my experience with it over on my YouTube channel soon: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChD0eomlbxseKJWED3NwdEA

Just use 1 4x4. Should do it.
You should see the dangerous mess of jacks, jack stands and blocks of wood I used to drop my BMW engine! You've got it e a s y!!! Thanks.

I've helped rebuild an old Harley Chopper in a living room (who hasn't), but dropping a flat six boggles my mind.

No need to run the tank empty; just jam a pencil in the fuel line. Or buy a fuel line clamp.

Get a bag of assorted balloons; to put over the rest of the lines you disconnect.

Use a carwash power washer to clean the bottom of the engine and tranny. Should have already done this to help narrow down where the leaks are coming from?

When you drain the oil, it comes out fast! Use a large open oil pan; not one of those used to cart off the old oil. The hole is too small for the flood. Don't ask. I'd drain the oil outside and then push the car in?

Dropping parts on enamel sinks and tubs chips the enamel.

I keep an old digital point&shoot camera in the garage. Projects drag on longer than we expect and images help the memory.

Plastic zip-lock bags and small note-pad to keep things sorted.

I apologize if some or all of this is too obvious.

Best of luck and have fun!

seal the weak spot on the oil tube casing according to tech bulletin, at outside and inside. JB weld will do the job

These may seem obvious but I didn't;t know any of it and it's really helpful! Thanks Michael!!

Apologies for the disaster of a garage in this photo.

This is my third drop. I got the car to this point by myself in an hour and a half. First drop took me days as I double / triple / quadruple checked everything.

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I had my engine dolly already made. It's a furniture dolly I lifted a little so my large jack can slip under it.

2nd small jack under the car is used under the trans to get the fore/aft angle right as you drop/lift.

That big truck jack under the left rear wheel I used to lift the car temporarily high enough to slide the motor out without taking off the rear bumper. IIRC just re-installing the bumper the first time was over an hour job.

By all means take your time and be meticulous, but it's not hard work. I'm not a great wrench and I can do it. Biggest hurdle is mental, dropping an engine out of a car seems like a big deal, but on 911s it's so easy.

Other tips that may not be obvious:

• Make sure you undo the non-adjustment side of the shift coupler. The grub screw side, not the clamp side. Will save you the headache of resetting it later.
• put ziploc bags over the CV joints when you unbolt them. That will both keep them clean and keep you clean. Some people tie them up and out of the way, I don't bother.