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Flojo 11-12-2019 01:10 AM

Swapping engine fan on 3.0 SC to larger version - issues
 
Hello,
maybe you can give me advise… I want to swap an engine fan I could get.

My SC has the 226mm diameter 11blade type 930.106.101.0 R
I could get the 245mm diameter 11blade type 901.106.101.5 R

Idea behind it: more air shoveled, more cooling.

Can I make it fit?

Guess I need a longer fanbelt and a different shroud?
Or is this just not gonna work?

Regards, Flo

SWS911 11-12-2019 04:47 AM

From what I remember those '78-'79 fans have a different pulley ratio and with the smaller diameter fan create quite the venturi effect. I think they changed it in '80 to decrease the "noise", but don't nail me to the cross on that one. I think they are better made and more desirable than the later fans/housings. Worth more too! If it were mine, I would have Mark Motshagen refinish it and KEEP it!

Flojo 11-12-2019 04:52 AM

To get it right, you say the smaller/SC one is "better" than the earlier/larger one?

SWS911 11-12-2019 05:01 AM

I think it's the one to have, period! Since you live in Deutschland, I wouldn't think cooling would be too much of an issue. It ain't South Texas by any means.

Trackrash 11-12-2019 08:35 AM

You will need the housing as well, not just the fan. Then the alternator will need to fit the fan housing. So you probably need the entire package. Keep in mind that the older alternators have less power. The Carrera housings tend to crack, so IMO, your best bet is a fan and housing from an '80-'83.

The outer pulley half can be changed to the older style as well. Depending on what combination you end up with you may have to use a custom length fan belt.

I have a '71 fan/housing/ alternator on my '78 SC motor, but it is in my '71 car. I tried two different crank pulleys, but didn't notice any difference in running temps.

Bottom line is if the motor isn't running hot, why change it?

3rd_gear_Ted 11-12-2019 09:15 AM

parasitic HP loss is greater with the bigger fan

Flojo 11-12-2019 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trackrash (Post 10654953)
You will need the housing as well, not just the fan. Then the alternator will need to fit the fan housing.

I know. I was offered the whole unit, fully refurbished (rebuilt and ceramic plated)

But ok, I guess I keep mine and refurbish it (again/*).

Thank you all for info.

(* I refurbed mine back in 2012, beadblasted it and heat-painted it, but it gets brittle now after time. so now again blasting and ceramic coating this time)

shoooo32 11-13-2019 09:08 AM

The smaller fan cars (78-79) have different pulleys as mentioned above. It only gets weird when you buy a 226mm fan car with a 245mm fan pulley on it. I shopped for months trying to get the right belt until I figured out what happened and bought the correct pulley!

Trackrash 11-13-2019 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoooo32 (Post 10656120)
The smaller fan cars (78-79) have different pulleys as mentioned above. It only gets weird when you buy a 226mm fan car with a 245mm fan pulley on it. I shopped for months trying to get the right belt until I figured out what happened and bought the correct pulley!

Yes, it should be mentioned that when Porsche used the 226 fan they spun it faster than the larger fans. Thus the smaller pulley on that fan.

There is a thread here that shows all the fans and pulleys. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/942046-993-fan-carrera-2.html


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