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Designer King
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
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What Do I Need For A Suspension Refresh?
Ol Yeller has 197,000 miles on it so I think it's well past time I did some suspension freshening. I've already redone the front rotors and pads, all 4 wheel bearings, and the turbo tie rods.
I want to replace, or have revalved, the Bilstein HD shocks, and replace the sway bar bushings and drop links or bushings, along with the spring plates and/or bushings. I'll probably replace shock mount bushings too. Afterwards I'll have an alignment done. I don't track the car anymore, and at my advanced age (71) I'm looking for a well handling but comfortable ride for myself and my long suffering wife. Aside from what I've listed above, what else should I get from our host, and what potential pitfalls should I look out for, or special tools would I need to do this work? And finally, can I do all this work in my garage with a jack and stands but no lift? Thanks.
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Paul Yellow 77 Sunroof Coupe/cork interior; 3.2L '80 SC engine/10.3:1/No O2; Carrera Tensioners; 11 Blade Fan; Turbo tie rods; Bilstein B6; 28 tube Cooler; SSI, Dansk; MSD/Blaster; 16x7" Fuchs/205/50 Goodrich G Force Sport Comp 2; PCA/UCR, MID9 Never leave well enough alone Last edited by Paulporsche; 11-19-2019 at 09:08 AM.. |
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Here is my typical list for a refresh. Some parts may be deleted depending on the previous replacement. There are options for each item.
front shocks (dampers) Front a-arm bushings tie-rods (or tie-rod ends) ball joints Steering rack rebuild/regrease front sway bar bushings (front a-arm and rear support) Front strut bearing support (top of strut) rear sway bar bushings (drop link and body collar) spring plate bushings rear shocks (dampers) rear trailing arm bushings I am a huge fan of any of the bearing type bushings (not rubber) I don't think they transmit much NVH into the chassis but have fantastic reduction in rotational friction. This means a planted, compliant ride especially on bad roads. Make sure to add a corner balance to your alignment process. This makes a difference especially after it has all come apart and been assembled.
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well handling but comfortable ===> digressive valving on the shocks
for best comfort, reverse all the hotrod suspension mods. you did years ago |
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You can definitely do this on jack stands. I did, but I'm also not 71
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If you have a Bilstein struts, you should probably change the upper seal and the sliding bearing inside the struts too.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Thanks everyone.
Mar2mar, Our host's chat function isn't working right now. Are those 2 parts readily available?
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Paul Yellow 77 Sunroof Coupe/cork interior; 3.2L '80 SC engine/10.3:1/No O2; Carrera Tensioners; 11 Blade Fan; Turbo tie rods; Bilstein B6; 28 tube Cooler; SSI, Dansk; MSD/Blaster; 16x7" Fuchs/205/50 Goodrich G Force Sport Comp 2; PCA/UCR, MID9 Never leave well enough alone |
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I searched around quite a bit for these parts, hoping to rebuild it myself , but I didn’t find anybody that sells them. Finally I called Bilstein, they have the parts , but they will not sell it individually. You have to send the struts to them and they will install it. That’s what I did. Before tax and shipping they charge a total of $230 for both struts. The turn around time was about 2 weeks. I’m very happy with their service and the peace of mind knowing it was professional done by Bilstein is well worth it.
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I think I'll go that route, Mar. Thanks!
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Craig Garr (G2 RAcing) (Cgarr on Pelican) will rebush your Bilstein struts. His turnaround time is faster than Bilstein and at a very reasonable price. It is worth contacting him.
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I'll check him out.
Thanks Jamie.
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Check book, thick one
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