SB 708 update....

[Joe Bob]

Just posted from the 356 list....also known as the anal retentive tail draggers....


LEGISLATIVE ALERT UPDATE

Congratulations everyone on your hard work and commitment to stopping
Senator Florez from pursuing his repeal in S.B. 708 of the current
emissions exemption for collector vehicles. Following is an article we
thought you would enjoy reading since it reports your tremendous
legislative efforts and victory. Keep up the good fight.

McKeel Hagerty
President, Hagerty Protection Network

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FLOREZ REVERSES ON CLASSIC CAR SMOG RULES
By VIC POLLARD, Californian Sacramento Bureau
e-mail: vpollard@bakersfield.com
Tuesday April 15, 2003, 10:56:17 PM

SACRAMENTO -- With Jay Leno and the rest of California's classic car
buffs on his case, State Sen. Dean Florez has dropped his proposal to
require smog checks for cars as old as 1958 models.

Leno, "The Tonight Show" host who has a large collection of vintage
autos, personally called Florez's office to lobby against the plan.

The lawmaker was also inundated with letters, e-mails and phone calls
from many other members of the highly organized hobby car community.

One of their tools was a cartoon depicting Florez in his state-leased
SUV chasing classic cars out of California.
Florez was forced to back down on the bill, one in a package of 10 bills
aimed at cleaning up the air in the Central Valley, before it even got
its first legislative hearing.

The bill, SB 708, isn't dead, but it has been amended to crack down on
cars that emit visible smoke. Originally, it called for requiring
regular smog checks and repairs for cars up to 45 model years old. If in
effect this year, it would apply to cars made in 1958 or later. That
would have replaced the state's existing exemption for cars older than
30 model years, which this year is 1973.

"Given all the fights we have on all the other air pollution bills,"
Florez said, "it wasn't going to help to push that one."

He said classic car fans made a convincing argument that most of the
oldest cars on the road, while they may be some of the worst polluters,
aren't usually driven to and from work daily.

"We told the classic car folks that we're going to continue to talk to
them," Florez continued, "but that was just too much of a detailed type
of proposal."

Florez's legislative aide, Michael Rubio, said Leno called after reading
a newspaper article about the smog bills.
" He said he wanted to know what the deal was with (SB) 708," Rubio
said. "Several days later, he called back and said, 'You've got me
thinking now.' And I said 'Can I start at the beginning?'"

He said Leno listened carefully and discussed his thoughts on the smog
problem and the bill at some length, urging Florez to carefully
distinguish between older cars that are driven for basic transportation
and those that are merely exhibited most of the time.

Other problems, he said, are the difficulty of getting repair parts for
older cars and the fact that emission controls were not mandated on cars
until the late 1960s.

The same arguments were made by the classic car community's chief
lobbyist, Steve McDonald of the Special Equipment Marketing Association,
a trade group of manufacturers, retailers, publishers and restorers.

"Obviously we're thrilled that the senator has agreed to modify the
legislation and refocus the target on what we believe is a more
effective one, that being smoking vehicles," McDonald said.

So are hobbyists like Jan VanderPool of Bakersfield, who, with his
fiancée, owns three vintage Ford Mustangs.
" That's definitely a big relief to me," he said.

VanderPool said it took years and a lot of effort to get the rolling
exemption from smog checks for cars that are more than 30 years old
enacted in 1997.

Florez and his staff appeared surprised, if not shellshocked, at the
size and aggressiveness of the lobbying campaign against the smog check
proposal.

But it was no surprise to VanderPool, who has been through similar
drills before when legislation was proposed that helped or hurt car
hobbyists.

"A lot of us have had to get pretty political," he said. "We've had to
get active and kind of watch our backs."

[studeb]

How do they define visible smoke?

[cowtown]

So...the bill's alive, but has been modified to address only smoking vehicles?

Will the 30-year rolling window stay in place?

Colin

[Dantilla]

How to define "Visable smoke"?

I can't explain it, but I know it when I see it.

[studeb]

Yeah, but white, grey, black?
What about condensation on cold mornings?
Do the neighbors rat out on you?
Or do they use a laser system?

[Targa Dude]

I just want to know about the 30 year exemption.. is this still in effect?

Jorge (Targa Dude)

[Joe Bob]

White or black smoke from a tail pipe of a warm engine more than 20% opacity as defined by the Ringlemann scale developed by the US Bureau of Mining.......the humidity can not be more than 75% to get a valid reading.

[Joe Bob]

Originally posted by Targa Dude
I just want to know about the 30 year exemption.. is this still in effect?

Jorge (Targa Dude)

Yes....

[cowtown]

Well this is great news, and thanks for posting it Mike.

The cynical side of me believes that Jay Leno's phone call made more difference than all the letters we wrote, but a win is a win.

Colin