Original 1986 Gold Metallic Wheels

[viperbyte]

I just noticed that the COA for my 1986 M491 911 Cabriolet came with "gold metallic" wheels. I would love to see what that looks like if any of you have pictures of such colored wheels. My wheels have been painted (not by me), so they are white now. Would consider going back to original, but would like to see the color first. Thanks in advance!

[Macroni]

Search Kilodawg. He has a 930S w/ body colored wheels.

[viperbyte]

The COA says "forged wheels- gold metallic" which appears to be an option:

Option code 485 - Forged wheels - gold metallic

This is what I would like to see a picture of. Factory paint would be the best to see.

P.S. Is this a rare option?

P.S.S. I searched Kilodawg, but couldn't find any pics of his gold wheels.

[kilodawg]

Well it's not really gold the color is nougat brown but you might be able to play with the color enough to give you an idea....

[kycarguy 935]

Originally Posted by viperbyte

The COA says "forged wheels- gold metallic" which appears to be an option:

Option code 485 - Forged wheels - gold metallic

I think this may be another of those COA mistakes we hear about. Wheels like kilodawg's are color keyed to match the paint color of the car. My 87 930S slant came with red color keyed red BBS wheels.

I found on option codes M485 is:

M485 Pressure cast alloy wheels 5.5Jx15 [Mahle]

You may want to call somebody at PCNA and verify and correct your COA if it's wrong. They cost a lot of money to be wrong so many times.

[ZAMIRZ]

I know in UK and AUS market, the Fuchs could be special-ordered in silver-look finish, but I've never seen gold. With special-wishes you could get anything done, so it wouldn't surprise me if the COA is accurate.

[rdrr]

My Dad once bought a 74 Carrera with gold Fuchs as an option straight from the factory. The car was delivered to Hong Kong. Unfortunately I can't give more info as he sold the car in the late '80s but it definitely originally came with gold wheels.

[JeremyD]

[Macroni]

Pretty!

[javadog]

During the some years in the eighties, Fuchs could be ordered in a couple colors other than black. The gold, as mentioned, and GP white. They weren't color matched to the body color, although I doubt you saw a set of white wheels on anything but a white car.

JR

[kilodawg]

Actually at least back in '84 Porsche made some 911's where the wheel color matched the interior. I have a photo of an '84 in Guards Red with a white interior and white fuchs.

Also, my old Kiln Red car had gray-beige interior and originally came with matching Platinum wheels.

[ZAMIRZ]

Yeah, like check out this slant cab for sale at gmund cars. baltic blue, magnolia interior, white fuchs. I love it personally.

http://www.gmundcars.com/cars/590/930slantnoseturbocab.html

[viperbyte]

Kycarguy,

I was looking at the codes for 924/944.Stupid me. The car was originally red garnet metallic, so the wheels weren't "matching" so to speak. I do think that would look real nice though. It wouldn't surprise me that the original owner would request special wheels since he forked out the cash for the M491 option.

JeremyD,

Those are some pretty wheels. Red garnet metallic paint with those gold wheels would look sweet. Here she is now:

[mikeferg75]

From this car

[kycarguy 935]

Originally Posted by viperbyte

Kycarguy,

I was looking at the codes for 924/944.Stupid me. The car was originally red garnet metallic, so the wheels weren't "matching" so to speak. I do think that would look real nice though. It wouldn't surprise me that the original owner would request special wheels since he forked out the cash for the M491 option.

I'm glad you found your answer. I have been collecting 911 and 930's for over 20 years now and that one mystified me. I have seen the gold wheels on a few mid year 911's but never on a mid to late 80's unless gold was the color of the car and they were color keyed to match. As we all know anything can be ordered or custom work done. My 74 euro Carrera came with the stock looking satin black finish.

When I was in England I saw a few cars with the solid white wheels. The English magazines show them from time to time also.

[islandflyer]

kilodawg

Nice car, I have seen a few nougat brown 911. Two coupes and one cab. Yours
is the first slant nose.


here is mine!!

[javadog]

Okay,

Here's the deal. During the mid-eighties, Fuchs wheels were available with the centers painted a couple colors other than black. I think they were available in 1984, for sure they were available in 1985. Availability extended at least through the 1988 model year and maybe into 1989. The colors were typically Grand Prix White and White Gold Metallic for the Carrera and 911 turbo and Grand Prix White and Platinum Metallic for the 944. Some years Platinum Metallic was available on the Carrera and turbo, instead of White Gold Metallic. Some years only one color was available; for instance GP White was the only optional color in 1988 for the Carrera and turbo.

These colors were not color matched to the interior or exterior, unless you decided to order the car color the same as the wheels. That was your choice, not something Porsche offered as a package. In some years, you couldn't even order the exterior color to match the wheels, unless you specified paint-to-sample. For example, in 1985 you could get a 944 with GP White or Platinum wheels, but neither color was offered that year for the body. Your choices were Alpine White (which was a less pure white) or Kalahari Metallic (which may have been similar to Platinum, but not an exact match to my eye.) Usually the optional wheel color choices for the Carrera and turbo did match the available exterior colors. When Platinum Metallic was available for the outside, platinum wheel centeres were also available. When White Gold was available outside, the wheels were also White Gold.

White Gold Metallic and Platinum Metallic are similar in appearance, but not the same color. Platinum is a little darker and has a slightly redder tint. Neither is close to the the gold wheels pictured earlier in the thread.

None of these were available on the 911SC, except for the 1980 Weissach Editions that were painted one of two different colors and fitted with Platinum Metallic wheels. In 1987 and 1988, you could get a Club Sport with or without graphics and those ordered with "Carrera" graphics sometimes came with wheel centers that matched the color of the graphics (typically red.)

These are fairly rare options for two reasons. One, most cars sold by a dealer were ordered by the sales manager for stock. These guys tended to order the colors and options most people wanted, to avoid having cars in their inventory that had really high sticker prices from lots of options (some years, you could essentially double the price of these cars with options) and to avoid having some weird color combination that turned the average buyer away. Two, for the relatively small number of cars that were special-ordered and optioned by the customer, few of the colors available looked good with the optional wheels and Porsche didn't have squat for documentation that would show you what your new car would actually look like with those wheels, so I suspect few people rolled the dice and ordered them, hoping they'd like them. There were no pictures of them in the brochures....

JR

[carolinatrophy]

Were "silver anodized" Fuchs wheels ever offered as an option? I have a friend that has a set of 16" Fuchs that he says are factory anodized in silver - not painted. He says they are very rare and valuable.

I've never heard of them. Anyone know?

[kilodawg]

Island Flyer before I ever found my 930S I saw that picture of your car and loved the color!

Javadog just to reiterate don't know how they came into being this way but like I indicated previously, I have a photo of an '84 Guards Red with white fuchs and a white interior as well as the first hand knowledge of the '84 I owned that was Kiln Red with Grey-Beige interior and originally came with Platinum (or very similar factory color) that closely matched the Grey-Beige interior.

[schoward]

Originally Posted by javadog

Okay,

Here's the deal. During the mid-eighties, Fuchs wheels were available with the centers painted a couple colors other than black. I think they were available in 1984, for sure they were available in 1985. Availability extended at least through the 1988 model year and maybe into 1989. The colors were typically Grand Prix White and White Gold Metallic for the Carrera and 911 turbo and Grand Prix White and Platinum Metallic for the 944. Some years Platinum Metallic was available on the Carrera and turbo, instead of White Gold Metallic. Some years only one color was available; for instance GP White was the only optional color in 1988 for the Carrera and turbo.

These colors were not color matched to the interior or exterior, unless you decided to order the car color the same as the wheels. That was your choice, not something Porsche offered as a package. In some years, you couldn't even order the exterior color to match the wheels, unless you specified paint-to-sample. For example, in 1985 you could get a 944 with GP White or Platinum wheels, but neither color was offered that year for the body. Your choices were Alpine White (which was a less pure white) or Kalahari Metallic (which may have been similar to Platinum, but not an exact match to my eye.) Usually the optional wheel color choices for the Carrera and turbo did match the available exterior colors. When Platinum Metallic was available for the outside, platinum wheel centeres were also available. When White Gold was available outside, the wheels were also White Gold.

White Gold Metallic and Platinum Metallic are similar in appearance, but not the same color. Platinum is a little darker and has a slightly redder tint. Neither is close to the the gold wheels pictured earlier in the thread.

None of these were available on the 911SC, except for the 1980 Weissach Editions that were painted one of two different colors and fitted with Platinum Metallic wheels. In 1987 and 1988, you could get a Club Sport with or without graphics and those ordered with "Carrera" graphics sometimes came with wheel centers that matched the color of the graphics (typically red.)

These are fairly rare options for two reasons. One, most cars sold by a dealer were ordered by the sales manager for stock. These guys tended to order the colors and options most people wanted, to avoid having cars in their inventory that had really high sticker prices from lots of options (some years, you could essentially double the price of these cars with options) and to avoid having some weird color combination that turned the average buyer away. Two, for the relatively small number of cars that were special-ordered and optioned by the customer, few of the colors available looked good with the optional wheels and Porsche didn't have squat for documentation that would show you what your new car would actually look like with those wheels, so I suspect few people rolled the dice and ordered them, hoping they'd like them. There were no pictures of them in the brochures....

JR

Javadog

Curious as to your comment 'None of these were available on the 911SC'. What is your data on that? Not challenging you here, just curious.

My 81 SC targa is Platinum metallic with Platinum centered fuchs. I have had concour folks ask me if they are factory as they look like they could be but no evidence to prove it. I'm just curious. I love the look and its one of the main reasons I bought the car.