>>>> Won't petroleum jelly rot the rubber?

No as its actually water soluable ... they use it on babys for skin rashes and stuff ..dont they ..
it will disolve away with hot water and soap.. i think its better than the silicone or oil , as those will take awhile to go away

- Joe -

Dave, Just leave extra wire sticking out. A little may slide down the channel but if you're pulling perpendicular to the trim it really doesn't slip that much. When you get to the point where the trim was lifting out, the wire will pop out, so you'll have to do a little coaxing to get the final area tucked in.

If you take the putty knife and press it on top of the outer rubber seal next to the problem area and rock it back over the trim you can sometimes get the final area to pop in place. In other words, the putty knife pushes the seal outward while rocking it over the trim pushes the trim down.

If that doesn't work. You can sometimes slide the putty knife under the outer seal and pinch the seal with your thumb and pull outward while pressing the top of the trim with your other hand.

I actually inserted trim into a window after it had been installed. It worked except for one corner. I think the reason that corner didn't work though is because the trim wasn't shaped exactly right to begin with.

This probably isn't an option, but the guy who just installed mine used a couple of suction cups with bronze(?) posts attached and would hit it sideways. I think they used silicone spray but not sure. I should have watched and picked their brains, they were very good and did both in about an hour.
One guy outside moving the window around a little and one guy inside working the seal. They probably used a curved seal pick in case the rope didn't do the trick in a spot.
They said the back was tempered glass and pretty strong, but the front was layered/laminated saftey glass and cracked easily.

Not to belabor a point, but petroleum jelly is made out of...petroleum. Smear some on your hands and see how much water it takes to get it off. Glycerine is a similar lubricant that is water soluable. Petroluem will destroy latex but not most rubber. Your oil lines are made of rubber. It just may last too long as a lubricant.

I took a closer look at my trim just now. It's in place except for the top edge, just about from corner to corner. Looks like I might have to take all of it out in order to put it in properly.
The "hook" on the trim that fits into the groove in the rubber opens to the outside. If usign the wire method, do you pull the wire toward the outside of the trim or toward the center of window?

What about leaving it off altogether? Ugly?

Any other ideas for a "partial install"?

Thanks,

the one thing that everyone has completely forgotten when doing these is the beer!?!?!?!

I would never attempt one of these without a 6 pack of my favorite NW micro brew.... it's amazing how calm I am inspite of what's going on with the car...

And I've never installed a window upsidedown either!:D

Installing the glass is not that difficult. But how do you know it's watertight? As much as we all LIKE rust, I'd let a pro handle this.
Glass installers in this area charge $60-100 for a no-leak install. I also suggest using new factory rubber.

Sherwood Lee
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