Can anyone decode this paint code on a '77 911 car?

[pkfrdh]

Anyone,

What is up with my paint code number..."624-9-3". It is on the alum. tag on the door hinge pillar on the left side of the car. The tag says "Made in West Germany" and "Kunzarslack" above the area the paint code number is stamped in. None of the paint supply stores that mix auto paint recognizes the number. The local Porsche dealership does not find it either. Is this number familiar to anyone?

JGL

[Shakenbake]

I had a similar issue with a paint code on my car that was not represented in any form as a standard or optional paint for my model year. After contacting PCNA and giving them the vin they were able to let me know that the original owner ordered it from the factory with a "Paint to sample" paint. Meaning that the owner sent Porsche a paint sample and had them paint it to match.

Could have been the same thing for your car?

[pkfrdh]

Shakenbake,

What is the paint code for your car? Does it look similar to the one on mine? ie: "123 - 4 - 5" Most paint codes are like: "L345" in format.

JGL

[Bobboloo]

That's how the numbers were in 77".

Ask them what color 624 is. They should be able to look it up. The other numbers 9-3 are Porsche numbers that refer to the brand of paint i.e. 9 for Glasurit and the 3 stands for something else which I can't remember.

Kunsthartlack is the german word for laquer.

624 by the way would have been a special order paint as it was not a stock color for 77'.

Bobby

[Shakenbake]

JGL my paint code is similar...358-9-3

[pkfrdh]

Bobboloo,

Thanks for the input. None of the paint mixing shops or any paint/body shops can find any mention anywhere about a paint code #624 in order to find a name for it or a recipe to mix it up for a repaint or match. They, including the local Porsche dealer, say the paint code does not exist in any of their books. Are there any more inclusive sources for any such obscure paint codes and the corresponding recipe to remake it? If this was a custom color requested prior to shipping to the USA, where would this information be and how hard is it to request it?

Thanks for your input.

JGL

[pkfrdh]

Shakenbake,

How do I contact PCNA? www.pcna.com?

JGL

It's not www.pcna.com that is a website for an attorney BAR info.

[Shakenbake]

JGL, try starting here:

PCA National Office PO Box 5900
Springfield, VA 22150
703-451-9000

The web address for contact/correspondence is:
https://www.pca.org/members/correspondence_real.html

The home page is :
https://www.pca.org/index.asp

Don't let them give you the run around. They told me I would have to contact the paint manufacturer which I did. I contacted BASF who apparently manufactured the paint and they also had no paint code to match the code on my car. I tried every paint manufacturer that I could find that had any relationship to Porsche...no luck. Tell them you want to find out about the paint code and can they look up what options the car came with from the VIN. Chances are that your car was custom ordered with a paint sample provided by the person ordering and Porsche matched the paint to the sample. Most paint shops said they would have to use a device (spectre analizer??) that would read the color and give them the ability to match the color. Good luck.

[feelyx]

go here
http://194.250.208.11/english/start.htm
its the closes thing on thier website

Tim in Sac

[pkfrdh]

Tim (Sacto),

I checked out the Glasurit site and they came up w/ a match for my number...but they say it is a 1988 and 1989 color. They call it "Anthrazit". I was told by people over the years it was a common Posche color called Anthracite (like the mineral) and it seems I knew the the name all along and it is not an obscure color, but the number does not come up on any paint mixers computer for a valid Porsche number anywhere! The name did come up for the later '80's cars, but under a different code number. I guess they superceded the paint code number to the newer model's paint code number. I hope the formula is the same. I will get a print out of the formula on the Glasurit site and take it to the paint mixer and see if it is the same as what is given for the late 80's Anthracite formula. Amazing it came right up as a good number, but for late 80's Porsches. My car is a 1977 w/ the original paint code tag. There is also a choice of two different formulations...one is coded "55" and the other "90" under the technology variables. I am guessing this means there are two formulations or two color varients. Hopefully the paint mixing shops can figure it out from the formulas.

Thanks for the info.

JGL

[davis911s]

Lets see a pic please, sounds nice.

Shawn

[pkfrdh]

Shawn,

This is what it looks like...sorry the paint condition is so bad...clear coat is gone...needs paint bad!

JGL

[davis911s]

Very nice and don't worry about the condition, mine is probably one of the worst paints out there- except Noahs (before)

Shawn

[Bobboloo]

If your looking to touch-up then a spectral analizer would be better than a code mix. If your doing a total repaint then I guess it doesn't matter. Even with a total repaint though you would still probably be better off with an analizer sampling an unfaded section, like in your trunk, than with the code.

I 've gotten paint mixed off code and it doesn't always match that well.

Bobby

[SakowskiMotors]

I just ran across this thread.
I have a 1978 SC Targa with the color 624- 9 - 3 also.
Interesting. It is the same as in this post in color.
If interested in it, here are pictures.
It has the original tag in the door for the color.

Sakowski Motors - New and used classics available from Los Angeles

Wil Sakowski

[rsnodgrass]

This 1977 930 Turbo currently for sale also has a paint id tag stamped 624-9-3. I suspect 924-9-3 was a color reused from another manufacturer, possibly another marque commonly sold by Porsche dealerships like BMW, Mercedes, etc. If you can find original paint chips for BMW or Mercedes from the mid-1970s it might be interesting to compare against one of your body panels which still has original paint.

Porsche 930 Turbo als Sportwagen/Coupé in Buchen

[rsnodgrass]

And here is Sakowski's chassis number with up close view of the original paint color for future comparison.

[Rostrenner]

Just stumbled across this:

624-9-3 is "anthrazite grey metallic", a special order color from Daimler Benz ("Anthrazitgraumetallic" Nr. 172 (Herbol 624)).

Cheers
Jan