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thsupernge 04-08-2021 07:02 AM

Weird question but why...
 
Is there a reason that we all run two heater boxes (those that do) when one would certainly do the trick? Is it because running just one would be too Frankensteinish? Looks bad or a PITA to deal with?

I mean unless you live Alaska during the winter would you ever need heater switches wide open?

Maybe just run the passenger side only? IDK

Kraftwerk 04-08-2021 07:56 AM

Porsche AG probably set the heater up this way, so as not to have to make any other changes when the steering wheel is on the Right side or the Left side, one less thing to 'make equal'.

Lyle O 04-08-2021 07:58 AM

It's all about symmetry / balance, and capability. You need to supply heat to both driver and passenger, and, since there are two header systems, you have a natural split. With an air-cooled set up, the factory needed to maximize capacity and capability.

As you are from southern California, you might not realize that MANY PARTS OF THE USA BESIDES ALASKA have cold enough weather to make good use of BOTH heater ducts. And, with a cab, it's actually fun to have the heater going full blast with the top down on cold weather drives (even in summer).

thsupernge 04-08-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerk (Post 11289349)
Porsche AG probably set the heater up this way, so as not to have to make any other changes when the steering wheel is on the Right side or the Left side, one less thing to 'make equal'.

Good point!

bkreigsr 04-08-2021 08:02 AM

I see from your California location that you are not in an arctic zone.
Try to get through a couple of winter weeks of zero degrees with only one side of the heat working.
Yes, Porsche knew what they were doing.

thsupernge 04-08-2021 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyle O (Post 11289350)
It's all about symmetry / balance, and capability. You need to supply heat to both driver and passenger, and, since there are two header systems, you have a natural split. With an air-cooled set up, the factory needed to maximize capacity and capability.

As you are from southern California, you might not realize that MANY PARTS OF THE USA BESIDES ALASKA have cold enough weather to make good use of BOTH heater ducts. And, with a cab, it's actually fun to have the heater going full blast with the top down on cold weather drives (even in summer).

Maybe I just run hot but I had the car on the highway through Vail in the winter with the windows open at speed and had them only open 1/4. More than that and I almost passed out! :)

Knowing German's pretty well (I'm married to one) you are probably right about the balance and symmetry. That was my first thought.

thsupernge 04-08-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bkreigsr (Post 11289359)
Yes, Porsche knew what they were doing.

Totally agree but do you use everything on full blast when it's that cold? Do you keep it there when driving? Maybe mine work too well? Just seems like overkill and seems especially redundant in warmer areas I guess.

bkreigsr 04-08-2021 08:14 AM

I ride with the heater boxes wide open and adjust the temp with the fan speed.
Remember, I'm dealing with three forty-plus year-old cars.

pmax 04-08-2021 08:18 AM

Anemic airflow when idling at traffic lights is what comes to mind ... when folks were still using these daily for everyday use, effective heat, defrost etc matters a lot more.

thsupernge 04-08-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bkreigsr (Post 11289376)
I ride with the heater boxes wide open and adjust the temp with the fan speed.
Remember, I'm dealing with three forty-plus year-old cars.

Gotcha!

eastbay 04-08-2021 09:48 AM

It was "Dual zone climate control" before Dual zone climate control was cool...

GH85Carrera 04-08-2021 10:32 AM

My wife rides with me in the 911 in winter time. At a recent fall tour to Arkansas we awoke to 16 degree weather.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617906390.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617906390.JPG

My 85 has a fantastic heater. My wife is typical of many women and likes it warmer than I prefer. She can keep her side cranked up and I can put my side back to just some heat. I have driven in sub zero temperature and believe me you want all the heat in the car you can get. It was the only time in 26 years of ownership I ran the heater at max for more than 10 minutes.

And it does indeed become necessary to have both side working in defrost mode.

pampadori 04-08-2021 11:33 AM

Dual zone climate. Two levers, two heater boxes.

PCA7GGR 04-08-2021 11:59 AM

“Duel Zone” An undocumented feature far a head of it time -;>)

thsupernge 04-08-2021 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastbay (Post 11289527)
It was "Dual zone climate control" before Dual zone climate control was cool...

That's awesome!

thsupernge 04-08-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11289571)
My wife rides with me in the 911 in winter time. At a recent fall tour to Arkansas we awoke to 16 degree weather.

My 85 has a fantastic heater. My wife is typical of many women and likes it warmer than I prefer. She can keep her side cranked up and I can put my side back to just some heat. I have driven in sub zero temperature and believe me you want all the heat in the car you can get. It was the only time in 26 years of ownership I ran the heater at max for more than 10 minutes.

And it does indeed become necessary to have both side working in defrost mode.

That's true! I love the stories! Man, that looks cold! Great pic too

sigchuck 04-08-2021 12:40 PM

Follow-up and possible hijack - why was the engine compartment blower motor added with the change in style of heat exchangers? Maybe my blower never worked, but I noticed no decrease in performance when I backdated the heat in my SC - still plenty adequate for temps in the low 30s/high 20s.

ToySnakePMC 04-08-2021 03:38 PM

Hmmm. My ‘76 912E (3.0L) only has one LH lever for heater control between the seats. Wonder if that helped “keep costs down” on this plain little, price leader of a car back in the day?

mepstein 04-08-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sigchuck (Post 11289767)
Follow-up and possible hijack - why was the engine compartment blower motor added with the change in style of heat exchangers? Maybe my blower never worked, but I noticed no decrease in performance when I backdated the heat in my SC - still plenty adequate for temps in the low 30s/high 20s.

Backdated heat works really well but it can be a bit low in bumper to bumper traffic so maybe they added the electric fan to even things out. Remember that a lot of people were driving these cars as daily's so they wanted their creature comforts.


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