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sandiego 06-07-2021 08:46 PM

What is option code M190? "Increased side door strength"?
 
My '84 Carrera Turbo Look has option code M190: "increased side door strength". What exactly is this? Is there possibly a metal bar behind the door skin? Can it be easily removed for weight savings ? Weight?

dg567 06-07-2021 09:06 PM

84 would have been a euro car. I know all US cars after 73 required a door crash bars. Its possible there was no requirement in Europe and it was an option for Euro cars?

sandiego 06-08-2021 03:30 PM

According to my VIN I have a US car and as you say should have the side bars standard. So is M190 additional strengthening?
Still would like to know if bars can be easily removed and about how much do they weigh?

Bruce911_ 06-08-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dg567 (Post 11355687)
84 would have been a euro car. I know all US cars after 73 required a door crash bars. Its possible there was no requirement in Europe and it was an option for Euro cars?

‘84 Turbo would be a Euro car not Turbo look which was made in U.S. spec.

dg567 06-08-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sandiego (Post 11356543)
According to my VIN I have a US car and as you say should have the side bars standard. So is M190 additional strengthening?
Still would like to know if bars can be easily removed and about how much do they weigh?

An 84 Turbo would not be a US car.

sandiego 06-08-2021 06:35 PM

I agree with all of you about the Turbo, but as stated in my original post, I have a 1984 Turbo LOOK. It's a US model, per the VIN, so it should already have the side bars standard. So does option M190 add additional strengthening?

Matt Monson 06-08-2021 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sandiego (Post 11356757)
I agree with all of you about the Turbo, but as stated in my original post, I have a 1984 Turbo LOOK. It's a US model, per the VIN, so it should already have the side bars standard. So does option M190 add additional strengthening?

Just spitballing here, but maybe because it’s a turbo-look, and uses a turbo body, the builds normally used row turbo doors without crash bars. But for US market cars they had to add them, and thus the option code.

No, they aren’t easily removed.

oldie44 06-08-2021 09:48 PM

You should look in the 914World website. There is discussion on removal of the door reinforcing bars. Very similar to 911 doors.

H-viken 06-08-2021 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 11356764)
Just spitballing here, but maybe because it’s a turbo-look, and uses a turbo body, the builds normally used row turbo doors without crash bars. But for US market cars they had to add them, and thus the option code.

No, they aren’t easily removed.

Are the turbo doors different in shape? Never heard of a turbo door before

Coastr 06-09-2021 06:48 AM

Just because there is an option doesn’t mean the car didn’t hand to have it. Plenty of option codes are mandatory for specific markets. Eg hydraulic bumper shocks on all us g-body cars, which could be ordered for extra in RoW cars. It’s an option to the base car build, not to the showroom spec.


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