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GH85Carrera 07-21-2021 09:26 AM

Information on the factory toolkit for 3.2 Carrera
 
I have a 1985 911 that some previous owner kept the toolkit for whatever reason. The guy I bought it from 26 years ago said it was missing when he bought it.

Porsche sells a new kit that is about 600 bucks after taxes and the quality of the tools are pitiful looking. Likely functional, just something I would expect at a Wal Mart discount bin level of quality.

For 26 year I have just carried the tools needed to do a few roadside repairs. The tools I don't have are sunroof tool and the window tools. #9 & #17 for the sunroof and #18 for the windows on the diagram below.

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So the little screwdriver tip, and the hand crank to close the sunroof, and the tool to raise a stuck open window.

Which of the Pelican has a good photo of the tip of the sunroof tool to close the sunroof and the window tool? I guess I need to read my manual again to learn how raise the window and close the sunroof. Step one is finding those tools.

Has anyone been able to close a sunroof or raise a window with a manual tool? Is there a simple work around tool to use to do that?

I just can't see spending that much money for crappy quality of tools. A used set is about the same price.

One tip, add a 24 inch piece of string trimmer string to the kit. If the fuel door cable breaks, adding more fuel is a problem. Just slide the string into the gap, and hold the ends with both hands and pull. The door will open. Go open it, and look at it. Then try it once with the string trimmer line and it can save you a lot of aggravation if the cable ever snaps. It is an old car. Virtually free tool, and it only weighs a few grams.

quickxotica 07-21-2021 10:40 AM

My '85's tool kit appears original and is only missing the long skinny crank. Here are pics, including a closeup of the short crank tool, with detachable flathead bit. Not sure which you are missing.

Relatedly, the latest issue (#18) of Pete Stout's quarterly "000" has a long explainer on all the tool kits, including that there were inconsistencies between cars based on what tools were available at the factory when the car was produced. I've included shots of the two relevant pages for '85, but really the publication is worth supporting if you can.

Let me know if you need different pics. Cheers.

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GH85Carrera 07-21-2021 10:48 AM

The one "tool" that makes no sense at all, is the tow hook. There is no hole in my bumpers to screw in the tow hook. It is just a paperweight for my car. I have never removed the bumper to see if the body has a place for the tow hook to attach.

I will take a look at the manual and see how the sunroof tool works and see if I can use a regular screwdriver. It would be slow and tedious, but better than nothing. The tool for the window looks a bit specialized.

Our host sells the kit https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/PCG93072110.htm?pn=PCG-930-721-10-OEM&SVSVSI=0807&fs=0

Only $544 bucks plus tax. I looked at a kit at Porsche Parade last week. It is just crazy money for cheap tools.

dkirk 07-21-2021 11:34 AM

If you ever have to take your car to a dealer or garage for specialized work, it's always wise to remove your tool kit from the car. Some of these tools have become expensive and very tempting.

Pedro '84 Coupe 07-21-2021 12:16 PM

I got mine from the dealer in 2017 for $367 with tax. Most of the tools are marked "Made in Germany". The wrenches say DIN 3110 and Chrom Vanadium so they should at least be made to German standards. Spark plug tools are marked Klein 21. I did get a spare spark plug tool and fan pulley holder so I didn't screw these up too badly. This was a kit for the Carrera so did not come with the tow hook. I think that may be for SCs and earlier models. I agree with you that $600 plus would be hard to swallow.
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As for the sunroof tool, the tool kit didn't come with one but I was able to snag one on the classifieds for $50.
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proporsche 07-21-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11399154)
The one "tool" that makes no sense at all, is the tow hook. There is no hole in my bumpers to screw in the tow hook. It is just a paperweight for my car. I have never removed the bumper to see if the body has a place for the tow hook to attach.

I will take a look at the manual and see how the sunroof tool works and see if I can use a regular screwdriver. It would be slow and tedious, but better than nothing. The tool for the window looks a bit specialized.

Our host sells the kit https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/PCG93072110.htm?pn=PCG-930-721-10-OEM&SVSVSI=0807&fs=0

Only $544 bucks plus tax. I looked at a kit at Porsche Parade last week. It is just crazy money for cheap tools.

The tow goes right under the rubber strip on the rear bumper
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads18/Tow+hook+attachment1310841267.jpg
if you do not have the plug there you should not have a tow hook in your tool kit....
Ivan

proporsche 07-21-2021 12:29 PM

my tool kithttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1626899363.jpg

76FJ55 07-22-2021 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11399154)
The one "tool" that makes no sense at all, is the tow hook. There is no hole in my bumpers to screw in the tow hook. It is just a paperweight for my car. I have never removed the bumper to see if the body has a place for the tow hook to attach.

I will take a look at the manual and see how the sunroof tool works and see if I can use a regular screwdriver. It would be slow and tedious, but better than nothing. The tool for the window looks a bit specialized.

the tow hook threads into the rear bumper not into the chassis. the issue is that the US cars with the large bumper overriders cover the threaded hole for the tow hook. the Euro smaller rubber bumper overriders leave the threaded hole exposed. I eliminated the overriders on my 84, so could install a tow eye if I needed it and had one. I do plan to add one to my kit at some point in the future.

For the sunroof, you can use a standard flat blade screwdriver. The factory tool is pretty neat with the small retaining screw in the middle to hold it in place, but not necessary to function. You will discover on the sunroof motor the drive gear has a large flat blade slot with a small threaded hole in the center for the holding screw. FYI the crank/screwdriver isn't as good for opening the sunroof as it tends to just loosen and back the screw out of the drive assembly. of course closing tightens the screw so in an emergency to tool is designed to close the sunroof to protect your interior.

GH85Carrera 07-23-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 76FJ55 (Post 11399980)
the tow hook threads into the rear bumper not into the chassis. the issue is that the US cars with the large bumper overriders cover the threaded hole for the tow hook. the Euro smaller rubber bumper overriders leave the threaded hole exposed. I eliminated the overriders on my 84, so could install a tow eye if I needed it and had one. I do plan to add one to my kit at some point in the future.

For the sunroof, you can use a standard flat blade screwdriver. The factory tool is pretty neat with the small retaining screw in the middle to hold it in place, but not necessary to function. You will discover on the sunroof motor the drive gear has a large flat blade slot with a small threaded hole in the center for the holding screw. FYI the crank/screwdriver isn't as good for opening the sunroof as it tends to just loosen and back the screw out of the drive assembly. of course closing tightens the screw so in an emergency to tool is designed to close the sunroof to protect your interior.

Thanks. In 26 years of ownership I have opened my sunroof three or four times on trips. I mostly want to be able to close it if it failed to close properly. Same for the windows. I do roll those down on occasion. Mostly when getting gas and my wife is still in the car she likes to have some breeze. Any other time the windows are up, and the AC or heat is on.

So a large screwdriver will close the sunroof. Good to know.

Jrboulder 07-23-2021 09:50 AM

If you’re really in a pinch you can just unzip the headliner and turn the rubber coupler about a million times to close the sunroof.

proporsche 07-23-2021 01:58 PM

actually the easiest way to close the sunroof in the either clutch failure or gear gone kaput is remove the gear(so the cables a are free) it self and after you remove the headliner, close the sunroof manually with your hand...
Ivan

Mark Salvetti 07-24-2021 01:37 PM

I’m really curious about the power window tool. I never heard of that and can’t imagine how it would work.


Mark


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