Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
ohbugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 31
Garage
Replacement ignition coil

My current coil has the + and - connectors right next to each other, and my wires come to a rubber boot that fits nicely into place.



The only replacement coils I can find have the connectors on opposite sides, making it impossible to hook up without butchering my wire setup. Anyone know where I can find a suitable replacement?

__________________
1975 911 S Targa
Old 05-26-2010, 04:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,667
Pull the coil and on the base is the part number. You should be able to have a store find a suitable replacement.
__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic
Old 05-26-2010, 05:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
ohbugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 31
Garage
Part number is 0 221 121 006. Our host has the silver replacement unit that is 0 221 121 001... close but no cigar. Haven't been able to find any 006s online, maybe I'll try Napa. Someone told me that any 12v coil should work, is that true? Then I could try to find one that connects the same way as my current one. I have a stock ignition setup.
__________________
1975 911 S Targa
Old 05-26-2010, 05:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
brads911sc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,799
Garage
No. Any 12v coil will work is not a correct statement. Ill let the experts advise...
__________________
83 SC Targa -- 3.2SS, GT2-108 Dougherty Cams, 9.5:1 JE Pistons, Supertec Studs, PMO ITB's, MS2 EFI, SSI's, Recurved Dizzy, MSD, Backdated Dansk Sport Stainless 2 in 1 out, Elephant Polybronze, Turbo Tie Rods, Bilstein HD's, Hollow 21-27 TBs, Optima Redtop 34R, Griffiths-ZIMS AC, Seine Shifter, Elephant Racing Oil Cooling.
Old 05-26-2010, 05:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 12,667
As brads911sc, not any ol' coil will do. The number you see is a Bosch part number.

While not giving you the same slick hook up, you can use a MSD Hi Vibration coil in this application.
__________________
Harry
1970 VW Sunroof Bus - "The Magic Bus"
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe - {insert name here}
1973.5 911T Targa - "Smokey"
2020 MB E350 4Matic
Old 05-26-2010, 05:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
ohbugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 31
Garage
Alright then, I kinda figured you wouldn't want to hook up just any coil.

I guess I'll just have to do some cutting at the end of my wires for a replacement. Seems like from what I read the MSD Hi Vibrations were more reliable than the new Brazilian Bosch units.
__________________
1975 911 S Targa
Old 05-26-2010, 06:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
ohbugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 31
Garage
Ok, so my old coil and connectors are designated "A" and "B". How do I know which one is + and -?
__________________
1975 911 S Targa
Old 05-27-2010, 01:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Porsche Enthusiast
 
rsnodgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 550
Garage
Did you ever find a replacement 006 coil or did you go with another solution? I'm also looking for a black 0 221 121 006 Bosch coil, if anyone has one that is known to be working please PM me.
__________________
74 Carrera 2.7 | 75 Turbo 3.0 | 97 Boxster | 12 Cayenne S
GONE >> 04 GT3 | 75 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 76 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 77 Turbo Carrera 3.0 | 86 Carrera 3.2
Old 11-28-2012, 04:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Reiver
 
Reiver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 57,467
search is your friend...tons of stuff here and basically there are lotsof coils that will work with the system
Old 11-28-2012, 04:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
emac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Da Region
Posts: 904
Garage
Brad etc
Had the same issue about five years ago. Replaced with with a VW coil from NAPA and still running great. BS with the 100 plus coils. Just my 2 cents
Ernie 81 SC
Old 11-28-2012, 06:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
dshepp806's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Middle Georgia
Posts: 4,550
Garage
I'm looking to stock my inventory with the GOOD coils....the brazilian stuff has proven non-reliabilty. Has anyone contacts to get the GOOD coils? Is it, in fact, a "VW" approach?

Specs are specs, of course,.....

All I want is a frikin GERMAN COIL replacement,....any out there to be had?

BEST!

Doyle
__________________
Recording Engineer, Administrator and Entrepeneur
Designer of Fine Studios, Tube Amplifier Guru
1989 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe
25th Anniversary Special Edition
Middle Georgia
Old 11-28-2012, 07:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Los Alamos, NM, USA
Posts: 6,044
"lots of coils that will work with the system"

Yes, but to my knowledge none of them have the correct post spacing that will allow the original wiring socket to be used without "butchering" the OEM wiring or making an adapter. I made two adapters using four ring lugs, short lengths of wire and bolts of the the correct size and thread to match the old coil posts. One ring lug of an adapter goes on a post of the new coil (secure with a nut and washer) and the lug at the other end of an adapter gets the bolt with the bolt thread projecting upward/outward (again secure the bolt with a nut and washer). The wire runs between the ring lugs. Insulate the wire and ring lug shanks heavily with shrink tubing or self-fusing silcone rubber tape. Repeat for other side of coil. Position the two adapters so their projecting bolt threads make the correct spacing for the orignal wiring socket. Secure and support the OEM wiring socket against vibration (otherwise the adapter wire will fatigue and break) by using plastic wire ties as required.


Jim
Old 11-28-2012, 07:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Los Alamos, NM, USA
Posts: 6,044
I believe this coil is suggested as a substitute for the problematic "silver" Brazilian Bosch coil; our host carries it. I would however peel off the "boy racer graphics" or paint them over with black paint before installing on a 911 engine.


Pelican Parts - Product Information: MSD-PN8222
Old 11-28-2012, 07:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Porsche Enthusiast
 
rsnodgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 550
Garage
Jim is correct. I am looking for the black 006 coil since the post spacing on all the replacements are different and require modifications to the original wiring (or construction of an adapter). If anyone has a 006 black coil please PM me.
__________________
74 Carrera 2.7 | 75 Turbo 3.0 | 97 Boxster | 12 Cayenne S
GONE >> 04 GT3 | 75 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 76 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 77 Turbo Carrera 3.0 | 86 Carrera 3.2
Old 11-29-2012, 01:59 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
muck-raker
 
kidrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Coastal PNW
Posts: 3,059
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Sims View Post
I believe this coil is suggested as a substitute for the problematic "silver" Brazilian Bosch coil; our host carries it. I would however peel off the "boy racer graphics" or paint them over with black paint before installing on a 911 engine.


Pelican Parts - Product Information: MSD-PN8222
This is interesting, as it is the first time I've heard of a decent substitute. I've been running a silver Brazilian for a couple of years now, and I've been jittery since I first installed it.
__________________
STONE
'88 Cabriolet, using EP Slick 20w50 partial synthetic Snake Oil...just as Rommel intended.

Deny Everything; Admit Nothing; and Always Make Counter-accusations
Old 11-29-2012, 12:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Finland
Posts: 143
Garage
Well I googled the number and heres the result. The numbers match

http://www.sparepartstore24.co.uk/676456-bosch
__________________
white 81 924
Old 11-29-2012, 01:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Finland
Posts: 143
Garage
Btw. What the coil does if it fails?
__________________
white 81 924
Old 11-29-2012, 01:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
wwest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Stunningly Beautiful Pacific NW.
Posts: 5,293
Garage
When CDI was first available little or no thought was given to the need for a transformer type ignition "coil" vs the oil inductive "kick" type. If replacing a CDI coil it might be best to look around for one of the transformer type "coil".
Old 11-29-2012, 01:36 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Auckland NZ
Posts: 1,022
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to Porboynz
Interesting post from rsnodgrass, I have had a used 0221 121 006 coil sitting on a shelf for years and I always wondered what Porsche it fitted. Can you confirm its for a 76 Carerra with MFI and CDI? It would not correctly fit my 72 2.4 MFI with CDI as the terminals are side by side and I did not know if the A and B terminals were pos and neg or visa versa. Live and learn. Shame its on the wrong side of the Pacific for you. Which terminal goes to the CDI and which goes to earth?
__________________
1972 911T Coupe with a '73E MFI engine and 'S' pistons
10 year resto mostly completed, in original Albert Blue.

***If only I didn't know now what I didn't know then***
Old 11-29-2012, 09:19 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Porsche Enthusiast
 
rsnodgrass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pacific NW
Posts: 550
Garage
I think it was used by Porsche in the mid-1970s on many of their models. I've seen them on 1974, 1975 and 1976 models. I don't think they would be MFI specific.

__________________
74 Carrera 2.7 | 75 Turbo 3.0 | 97 Boxster | 12 Cayenne S
GONE >> 04 GT3 | 75 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 76 Carrera 2.7 MFI | 77 Turbo Carrera 3.0 | 86 Carrera 3.2
Old 11-30-2012, 01:43 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:18 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.