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dd74 05-15-2003 08:05 AM

Used Carrera sway bars - anything to look out for?
 
I might be in the market for some Carrera sway bars for my '74. I think anything from '85 to '88 will work. I don't need adjustable features of the more upscale bars, but because the Carrera bars are thicker than my OEM sway bars, I'd like to give them a try.

I plan on buying/trading for a used set. Is there anything I should look out for? If the bushings are bad, I'll probably replace those new.

Thanks.

pbs911 05-15-2003 08:09 AM

86- 89 are the thicker and more desireable. 22/21 I think compared to 20/19/

RoninLB 05-15-2003 08:14 AM

I want the 22 front Carrera bar..

so far, to my limited looking, Carrera front can be either 20 or 22.. and the 22 can get expensive..............Ron

Steven Alarcon 05-15-2003 08:38 AM

Sway Bars
 
Paul is correct, if you want the factory's best it is the
1986-on Carrera Sway bars. The front is 22mm and the
rear is 21mm. You can purchase these bars used and
will have no problems. I strongly recommend new bushings.
The problem that you will have is that your 1974 911 has
different sway bar consoles (brackets). You will need to upgrade
your old brackets to the new style brackets (911.501.983.00).
Rear sway bar brackets do commonly break and porsche has
corrected this problem with this new bracket (console).
Additionally the 1974 911 has a different mount on the alloy
rear control arm. You can purchase some custom drop links from
Wrightwood Racing which run about $225.00 for the pair.
Another option is to buy an aftermarket Weltmeister rear 22mm
sway bar and the Factory Carrera 22mm for the front.
Price out all your options. But in the end, it is the best bang for the buck!

Good Luck,
Steve Alarcon

dd74 05-15-2003 09:02 AM

Steve - will the Weltmeister rear require all the mounting items that you listed for the rear Carrera bar?

Thanks

IROC 05-15-2003 09:10 AM

I added Carrera sway bars to my '76 and used factory mounting hardware in the rear. The only thing I had to do differently was to use a large bolt through the bar and into the fitting that attaches to the banana arm. Very inexpensive and it works fine.

I broke one of my rear "consoles" years ago at Road Atlanta and - not knowing any better - simply had it re-welded. Both of them have been fine since. I have a theory that stiff sway bars/soft torsion bars put way too much load into these consoles. Immediately after braking my console I upgraded my torsion bars (coincidentally) and both consoles have been fine ever since. I think the stiffer torsion bars go along way to increasing roll stiffness on their own and consequently the consoles aren't as highly stressed.

Just my theory, though.

Mike

dd74 05-15-2003 09:24 AM

IROC - What size torsions do you have?

IROC 05-15-2003 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
IROC - What size torsions do you have?
22mm front/29mm rear.

Mike

Steven Alarcon 05-15-2003 11:57 AM

Weltmeister Rear Sway Bar
 
The Weltmeister rear sway bar will come complete without
any addtional fabrication needed to get the job done.
Check the sway bar brackets (consoles) for cracks or damage
before installing them. Check with Pelican on the price.

Steve Alarcon

dd74 05-15-2003 02:36 PM

How can I tell which is which?
 
Aside from measuring diameter, is their a serial number or stamp anywhere on the swaybars where I can tell what model year the swaybars came from?

Thanks.

Steven Alarcon 05-15-2003 04:52 PM

Carrera Sway Bars
 
The front Carrera sway bar has a stamped 22 on the end of
the sway bar. It is some hard to see even when you clean the
end of the sway bar.
The rear Carrea sway bar has the part number stamped in the
bar near the drop link, along with the size 21mm.

Steve Alarcon


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