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Racerbvd 12-25-2021 07:16 AM

Andial Deep Sump coating
 
I'm wanting to refinish and update my Andial Deep sump.
I was thinking about sending this to Jet Hot, as I have had a few exhaust systems done in the past http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1640448275.jpg
But I am sure there have been a lot of changes made in the coating industry so any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am also going to see if I can update the hoses to Earls.
Merry Christmas and thanks in advance. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1640448596.jpg
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Arlo911 12-25-2021 07:58 AM

I´d have it Cerakoted.

HaroldMHedge 12-25-2021 08:19 AM

For the Cerakote, I would use an oven cured heat dispensing version. The oven cured version is more durable.

That's an interesting deep sump does it use a deeper/longer pickup tube?

ian c2 12-25-2021 08:20 AM

https://swaintech.com/

Racerbvd 12-27-2021 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HaroldMHedge (Post 11556614)
For the Cerakote, I would use an oven cured heat dispensing version. The oven cured version is more durable.

That's an interesting deep sump does it use a deeper/longer pickup tube?

Thanks, I'll have to check about the pick up tube..

Evan Fullerton 12-27-2021 08:37 AM

Anyone know the history on these? Is is supposed to help head drain back with the extra tubes to the sump from the return tubes? Seems like a strange piece on a dry sump motor.

john walker's workshop 12-27-2021 08:39 AM

Look out for speed bumps!!!

sundevil64 12-27-2021 08:40 AM

Cerakote.

I would shear something like that off where I drive.

Racerbvd 12-27-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by evan fullerton (Post 11558053)
anyone know the history on these? Is is supposed to help head drain back with the extra tubes to the sump from the return tubes? Seems like a strange piece on a dry sump motor.


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this was part of a package that jim busby developed while andial were doing the engines for his 1975 rsr. It was to remove the proximity of the oil from the crankshaft to prevent centrifical gathering of the oil mass around the crank. It also was run in conguntion with one way gulp vlaves (2) positioned in the header collector to create crank case vaccum. I think jim mcfarllin was the mentor in this exercise. I forgot pete ingcognuto made angle port inserts for the heads that tended to straighten out the ports, it was quite a eleborate modification with a schrick cam. After it was all said and done and worked the parts were labled with the andial logo.


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Racerbvd 12-27-2021 04:15 PM

Originally was going to use on this, but this one is going into the 914-6GT clone.


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When we rebuild my 78 SC, was thinking this would be cool.

gled49 12-28-2021 09:15 AM

Here was a Porsche solution, I think 935. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1640715336.jpg

Racerbvd 01-02-2022 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gled49 (Post 11558916)
Here was a Porsche solution, I think 935. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1640715336.jpg

Very cool, thanks for sharing.

trebor_911 08-05-2022 01:15 PM

It’s good quality aluminum. I would not be to worried about corrosion. All andial applied was black heat paint. Don’t coat the internals and don’t use a coating that will insulate it. It’s supposed too dissipate heat .

We have ours on the 2.3L race motor together with a Glenn Yee Motorsports oil pump.
A large reduction of crankcase mist in the 7-9000rpm range.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659733927.jpg

faapgar 08-05-2022 02:05 PM

true meaning of Deep Throat Sump
 
The deep sump came about in the early 80,s in Imsa for the RSR cars.Back then we did not run valve guide seals.The standard oil breather cover was replaced with a fabricated unit that was about 6 inches high with 3 hose fittings.One went to the oil tank and the other 2 were connected to a hose that ran to the collector that installed at a 45 degree angle.Designed to pull crankcase vacuum for more free revving.The oil return tubes dropped the oil to the ANDIAL deep sump.The objective was to keep the oil from building up in the lower valve cover and being sucked through the exhaust guide in a long fast turn.Ran these for about 2 years then IMSA banned them because with a motor with wear it became a mosquito killer and vision behind the car was compromised.It did rev better though.I forget how many inches of vaccum it pulled.Worth a couple of ponies higher up.SmileWavy Fred

trebor_911 08-05-2022 02:59 PM

Nick named the tower of power !

Racerbvd 01-19-2025 10:17 AM

I really need to get going on this.


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