Lisle tool not working for me..Why?!
 

Just bought this tool and it is not working for me...is there something more than simply pushing it in?

Trying the remove my side mirror from car without having to cut wires.

85 911

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Push the wire and contact pin in firmly from the back side with your fingers, insert the tool and rock it slightly back and forth in a circular motion then pull the wire and contact pin out with a gentle tug.
Repeat as needed. You are trying to flatten the latches on the contact.

I had the same issue when I was taking the connector out using that tool.
Bought this instead and worked great.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-application-tooling/305183/15640

here's what you are trying to push in.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1658593488.jpg

I bought a cheap one on Amazon. It lasted about half way through the job. Sent it back for a return the the next one just finished before it broke.

They are very finicky but take your time and try not to bend it.

The Lisle tool alone did not work for me. I pulled the correct size hollow metal insert off of the tool, then pushed the hollow metal piece over the connector with a pair of needle nose pliers. I then used a small diameter Allen wrench to essentially push the connector out through the hollow metal insert. This worked great.

if you find in your pen collection the ink tube made out of copper ..i used that for many years it is an exact diameter to remove the pins-connectors

Ivan

going to try it

I was thinking the same thing...looking for one..no luck finding one

bent the tool
 

i tried to take the tube off the tool and it bent, soft as aluminum foil.. i can still get it around the terminal...but still no luck

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The key to my method is pushing rather than pulling the connector. It will obviously only work if the tube is off the tool. The end that you’re not inserting doesn’t need to be pretty - it just needs to be open enough so that you can get a small Allen wrench through in order to push the connector out.

Hmm. Never seen a tool exactly like that lisle tool. Always used the disposable plastic ones for extracting pins...like these:

https://dmctools.com/oscar/catalogue/category/dmc-category/installing-removal-tools_73/

Although they do break, they are pretty inexpensive and seemed to work better than similar metal ones for me. generally, you must be very, very gentle so as not to ruin the pin connector anyways. If you are pushing hard, you are doing it wrong. You slide it over the wire on the back of the connector and gently push it in while slightly rotating it. If you hit much resistance, you pull back and try again. You do not pull on the wire until you believe you have disengaged the retainers on the pins, otherwise, they dig in and keep the tool from sliding over them.

I use these when the Lisle tool won’t work.
Eclipse CE-0275 5 Piece Pin Remover Set https://a.co/d/9xEVFM7

i ordered these
 

already wasted $17 on lisle tool. hopefully this workshttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1658620689.jpg

All of those tools look like they would be the same as the first one as they will not open to not slide over the wire from the back like the cheap, flexible plastic ones that they usually include with connectors (at least when you are working on aircraft).

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I wasted time, energy, effort and money on two tools, including the same Lisle. Frustrating.

The Digikey version is the right tool for the job. It worked like a charm straight away.

Some connectors are depinned by opening the shell (eg the 14 pin engine harness connector)..

Some connectors are depinned from the rear. Usually it's pretty obvious which ones these are; no tool can be inserted at the front as there's only a blank face with the connector protruding from it.

Others, like this one appears to be, are depinned from the the front. These, you typically relieve the pressure on the latching system (that holds the pin in the connector) by pushing the wire/connector forward in the seat, then the tool goes over the pin and depresses the latch. Then the pin and tool can be pushed through into the connector block, the wire pulled out of the tool and the tool pulled back through.

Gently tweak the latch back into shape if necessary, re-insert the terminal until it clicks (or just won't go any deeper, sometimes you can't feel it lock) and just tug it gently to check that it did lock (I had an intermittent no-start once caused by a crank pickup lead with a Deutsche female terminal that wouldn't actually lock into the shell and just pushed back as you made the connection). Should be good.

Sometimes it helps a lot to have a connector and a terminal to peer at closely before you start.

Yup, I spent a lot of reading on this a few months back and I was getting frustrated. Came across a thread on the other forum that said "I have a pin remover from AMP, part number 305183".

googled the part number and the ordered the one from digikey....worked like a charm.

Huh, while the Lisle tool gave me a bit of difficulty I was able to safely de-pin every connection. Like others said it was a matter of pushing and pulling on the wire while pressing the tool in. Not fun, but doable.

I hadn't seen that digikey one before, I like that a lot.

These are garbage. I threw mine away after trying in vain to use them on a VW/audi connector.
For what it's worth, the round tools in this set are just insulated wire ferrules.

Right, junk..BUT!
 

1 did work! But broke from its handle first time using it.

where to purchace??
 

Do you know what type of pins those are? specs? Like to buy some.

Did this same exact job on an '85 several years ago. Used this tool, easy-peasy:

https://www.amazon.com/Delphi-Weather-Pack-Female-Terminal-Removal/dp/B07DD3SFFK

I use this tool
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1658872338.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/1123411-do-you-have-conncetor-pins.html#post11753734

I posted all the parts showing numbers for new pins and housings.
For future reference. Should add it to your mirror thread too.

Is there a video that demonstrates what this tool is supposed to do?
Or what it is even called?

same tool for female
 

is the same size tool
used for both male and female pins?

When doing mine, I found that the pins wouldnt collapse unless I was pushing the wire from the back before inserting the tool. I used a very small pair of needle nose plyers to make sure it was in as far as it would go. It makes sense if you look at the ears on the connector as they stop on the inner lip

In my case Molex and AMP , male and female it is the same tool.

Like Timmy2 and AlKidd said, you need to push the pin from the back before inserting the tool from the front. Sometimes the tangs grab de plastic and when you insert the tool the tangs do not close and you cannot pull the pin. You can use a jewelers screwdriver to push the pins from the back.

Here, how this tool works.
It is like a syringe, it has a small plunger that pushes the pin when it is fully inserted and the tangs are depressed.

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These tangs are the ones that hold the pin in place.
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The tool partially inserted, note that the tangs are NOT fully depressed, the pin cannot be pulled.
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Tool fully inserted, no tangs visible, you can pull the pin out.
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Here you can see the small plunger pushing the pin out.
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The Lisle and Amazon tools you are showing do not have the plunger, but should work, you only need to make sure the tangs are fully depressed, that is why you need to push from the back and then insert the tool.
The DigiKey tool is similar to mine.

where can I get it?
 

Hi
where can i purchase this tool? is there a part number? thanks

Sorry, I bought it about many years ago and do not remember where.There are no markings on the tool.
Googled it and got this link
https://www.licotatools.com/category-INSERTION---EXTRACTION-TOOLS-INSERTION.html

This one is similar
https://www.te.com/usa-en/product-305183.html

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/te-application-tooling/305183/15640

Google lens review of the photo came up with
"Molex Power Connector Pin Remover Computer Wire Extractor Tool for .062" and 0.093" pins" with a couple of different source names like Jameco. com and Philmore.datak. com

Here
https://www.google.com/search?q=Philmore+61-390&oq=Philmore+61-390&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61.1460j0j7&sourceid=chro me&ie=UTF-8

Yes pin poppers go in the front, depress the ears at their hinge and the conductor is pulled free from the back. The best pin poppers are a tube that fits between the pin and the shell, with a plunger in the center. The tube pushes the locking tabs down and the plunger pushes the pin or socket out.
Example are shown up thread.

I had to do 24 pins worth as I was reinstalling the original flag mirrors on my '88 due to a previous owner updating to aero mirrors in period (and not only are the plastic connectors shaped differently, but male vs female electrical connectors are opposite on the flags vs aeros). [facepalm]

I could only get like one or two pins out using these tools while PUSHING and PULLING on the 33 year old wiring harness & pins. I didn't want to have to crank on 22 more pins via the push & pull method...

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This tool made the job so easy. As you should expect when using the right tool for the job. I had the other 22 pins out in 22 seconds (maybe less). Laughably easy in comparison (and no pin crankage required)...

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The metal plunger style didn't work for me. The AMP's longer tip was better suited for the job...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659917643.jpg

Here's the AMP tool in action on my 1989...

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Moments after doing things the right way, I discovered this utter hack job...

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yellow handle tool
worked best? that hack job is exactly what i didn’t want to do! and i won’t

Amps tool worked the best for him is what I read.

Apologies if I wasn't clear. No, the yellow handle, non syringe style, tool was the same as the Lisle. Just worked ok at best.

God bless you. "First, do no harm." Anyone that approaches undamaged factory wiring with a pair of cutters should be neautralized on sight. There's always a better / cleaner wiring solution if one takes the time, makes the effort and acquires the correct parts and tools.

Yes. The AMP plunger style tool worked / worked the best for me. I'd say "YMMV," but not in my experience. The syringe style seems to be "the right tool for the job" in this instance.

The Amp tool is the one I have the most experience with. I have stuffed hundreds of Amp CPC with the inevitable oops! I am not really familiar with other brands. The Amp pin popper Does work well