Ceramic Coat RSR Finish on Fuchs

[1989Carrera]

Have any of you ceramic coated Fuchs rims with the RSR finish?

I have a set of 15x7 and 15x8 Fuchs recently restored by Harvey Weidman that I’d like to ceramic coat prior to having the tires mounted, but I’m worried about it darkening the frosted finish.

[ADDvanced]

Ceramic coating is marketing bull****. It's just paint sealant. Do not waste your money. Just get some Klasse and quit paying high school drop outs a higher hourly rate than skilled trades or professional accredited people.

[tsuter]

If you ceramic coat your car you never have to wax again.....muhahahahaha! But I would consider cerakoting my Fuchs if I hadn't just refinished the center faded black with PlastiDip!

[mikedsilva]

Originally Posted by ADDvanced

Ceramic coating is marketing bull****. It's just paint sealant. Do not waste your money. Just get some Klasse and quit paying high school drop outs a higher hourly rate than skilled trades or professional accredited people.

really?

[ADDvanced]

Yes really. ****ing scam artists and snake oil salesmen selling psuedo science and taking advantage of people. I know one who scammed a single mom out of $3500 to "protect her investment". Guy barely passed high school. These people have no morals.

[shamrok]

That doesn't really have anything to do with ceramic coatings. They're not bull****, but they aren't magical either, they're just another tool. If people still get ripped off with the entire written record of human knowledge in their pocket, that's unfortunate, but...

To OP, ceramic coating will last longer than wax, but it needs be done correctly or not at all, as it's really difficult to remove in some instances. I'd personally look at doing a clear satin Cerakote for fresh RSR wheels.

[ADDvanced]

Originally Posted by shamrok

That doesn't really have anything to do with ceramic coatings. They're not bull****, but they aren't magical either, they're just another tool. If people still get ripped off with the entire written record of human knowledge in their pocket, that's unfortunate, but...

To OP, ceramic coating will last longer than wax, but it needs be done correctly or not at all, as it's really difficult to remove in some instances. I'd personally look at doing a clear satin Cerakote for fresh RSR wheels.

Except in this case, it's 1000% entirely psuedo science marketing bull****, because they are just PAINT SEALANTS.

Rain-X is a glass sealant. Paint sealants are the same thing for your paint, form a chemical bond to seal your your paint, helps protect it, water/dirt sheds off. Things have been around for decades, then like 10 years ago some marketing d-bags bought a bunch of it and rebranded it as a "CERAMIC" coating because user research showed that consumers heard the word ceramic and associated it with tough/protection, and then started charging WAY MORE for it.

The whole detailing industry is ****ed these days. Cut/Buff used to be $300-500, now it's called "Paint correction" and they want you to pay $1500-2000 for the same thing. It's insanity, and people fork over money to these guys who have no FORMAL training, and pay them higher hourly amounts than skilled tradesman or professionals. Stop doing it.

[ejp]

Originally Posted by ADDvanced

Except in this case, it's 1000% entirely psuedo science marketing bull****, because they are just PAINT SEALANTS.

Rain-X is a glass sealant. Paint sealants are the same thing for your paint, form a chemical bond to seal your your paint, helps protect it, water/dirt sheds off. Things have been around for decades, then like 10 years ago some marketing d-bags bought a bunch of it and rebranded it as a "CERAMIC" coating because user research showed that consumers heard the word ceramic and associated it with tough/protection, and then started charging WAY MORE for it.

The whole detailing industry is ****ed these days. Cut/Buff used to be $300-500, now it's called "Paint correction" and they want you to pay $1500-2000 for the same thing. It's insanity, and people fork over money to these guys who have no FORMAL training, and pay them higher hourly amounts than skilled tradesman or professionals. Stop doing it.

So what? It's a paint sealant, and it's been rebranded. It works pretty well on my cars and I'm very satisfied with the results. Few detailers are getting rich off of this - things like rent and labor are just more expensive now. You seem pretty upset.

[Flynt]

Originally Posted by ADDvanced

The whole detailing industry is ****ed these days. Cut/Buff used to be $300-500, now it's called "Paint correction" and they want you to pay $1500-2000 for the same thing. It's insanity, and people fork over money to these guys who have no FORMAL training, and pay them higher hourly amounts than skilled tradesman or professionals. Stop doing it.

How is somebody who's honed their craft doing hundreds of cut/buff/paint correction/whatever jobs NOT a skilled tradesman, and NOT worth whatever rate they charge? There are hacks out there that burn through all your paint and charge way too much for the service, but to lump em all together and slag off a whole set of skilled professionals just because they were never "formally trained" is lame. Takes a lot of time to develop the skill, and a lot of time to do the job right. Truly sorry that single mom you know got hustled.

OP - are you talking about "ceramic coating" like one would use on paint? The liquid you apply with a little sponge? Go for it - that won't change the shine on the wheels, and might help the brake dust come off in the future. If you're talkig about a product like Cerakote, that might change the shine..

[ADDvanced]

Ever work at a bodyshop? Know anyone who does? Guy I grew up with does. The cutting/buffing is easy, and is usually given to the younger guys with less experience. See a blemish? Sand it lightly. Buff it. Blemish goes away. Don't lean on pad, keep it moving to avoid heat build up. Keep things clean. Always let pad rotate away from edges. That's really about all there is to it. But because of MARKETING, it's now $1500-2000 for what used to be $3-500 for the exact same job, which is, again, a higher hourly rate than plumbers, electricians, engineers, etc. How do they get away with it? Rebranding. PAINT CORRECTION NOW! So ****ing dumb.

That's what pisses me off. Same exact job. Change the name. Charge 5x more. CUZ MARKETING.

Renaming paint sealant to something that SOUNDS more durable, and then charging out the ass for it. Of course it's better than wax, because paint sealant is better than wax.

God I hate marketing.

[1989Carrera]

Originally Posted by Flynt

How is somebody who's honed their craft doing hundreds of cut/buff/paint correction/whatever jobs NOT a skilled tradesman, and NOT worth whatever rate they charge? There are hacks out there that burn through all your paint and charge way too much for the service, but to lump em all together and slag off a whole set of skilled professionals just because they were never "formally trained" is lame. Takes a lot of time to develop the skill, and a lot of time to do the job right. Truly sorry that single mom you know got hustled.

OP - are you talking about "ceramic coating" like one would use on paint? The liquid you apply with a little sponge? Go for it - that won't change the shine on the wheels, and might help the brake dust come off in the future. If you're talkig about a product like Cerakote, that might change the shine..

Just asking about ceramic coating like used on paint. I’m just worried about it darkening the non-polished anodized part of the RSR finish.

[DetailDivision]

OP-Right side is ceramic coated, left side is how it started. You will see a slight darkening at first but nothing more than a spray quick detailer would leave.

[1989Carrera]

Originally Posted by DetailDivision

OP-Right side is ceramic coated, left side is how it started. You will see a slight darkening at first but nothing more than a spray quick detailer would leave.

Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted to know!