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Bill Douglas 10-05-2023 08:06 PM

An interesting development for 964 and 993 engines.
 
Swindon Powertrain has developed a 24-valve cylinder head kit for the 964 and 993 engines that rocks redesigned four-valve per-cylinder castings to unlock more horsepower and torque. In-house testing has revealed that peak flow has improved by 40% at the inlet and 60% at the exhaust. What’s more, Swindon’s cylinder head reduces weight by 3.5 kg (7.7 lbs) and allows applicable engines to rev all the way to 12,000 rpm.


https://www.carscoops.com/2023/10/swindon-creates-porsche-911-cylinder-head-that-allows-air-cooled-engines-to-rev-to-12000-rpm/

Ian Comerford 10-05-2023 09:44 PM

Swindon built the Tuthill 911K engine that runs to 11k revs. Assume this is the base kit

Bill Douglas 10-05-2023 10:28 PM

That's interesting.

If they are talking about 12,000rpm they sure would want a beautifully balanced crank and pistons.

fanaudical 10-06-2023 05:16 AM

Very cool!

Dpmulvan 10-06-2023 10:13 AM

Guaranteed I can’t afford it.

Locker537 10-06-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 12103797)
Guaranteed I can’t afford it.

"The British company’s complete M64 cylinder head kit is priced from £29,950 ($36,413)."

Gotta pay to play...

Evan Fullerton 10-06-2023 10:45 AM

Given that it’s ~$20k for Xtreme 2 valve heads, Pauter or Schrick billet rockers, new cams, billet valve covers etc.

Almost seems like a bargain.

RocketJohn 10-06-2023 12:51 PM

Do we know how much more horsepower?

RSTarga 10-06-2023 01:07 PM

Are they able to do that without watercooling the heads? Must be some exotic materials

Ian Comerford 10-06-2023 11:11 PM

I’m just glad they be done it……

phelix 10-07-2023 01:16 PM

A combination of metallurgy and manufacturing techniques?

dw1 10-07-2023 02:33 PM

Another article:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/air-cooled-porsche-911s-can-rev-to-12000-rpm-with-these-new-cylinder-heads

Amusingly (and realistically) this article points out the lack of price details and suggests the old saying: "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

I certainly agree with the prior comments indicating the heads may enable the stratospheric revs, but I sure hope the engine's bottom end is up to the strain. But then, anyone buying these heads would surely have the rest of the motor "built and blueprinted".

stownsen914 10-07-2023 03:25 PM

Considering the price of 911 rebuilds and parts these days, honestly that price doesn't seem ridiculous.

nospiners 10-07-2023 03:57 PM

Its a pipe dream , but for the 1% !!! Most of us would be happy with a good running , all systems
working , no leaks 911 ...

Ian Comerford 10-08-2023 07:52 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1696780281.jpg

Ian Comerford 10-08-2023 07:55 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1696780515.jpg

rswannabe 10-08-2023 08:10 AM

Hmmmmmm, take a 3.6 and swap in Supertech’s 66mm stroke Supercrank, run the nascar bearings and gt3 rods and these heads and I bet 10-12k redline is there for the taking.

phelix 10-08-2023 08:28 AM

Wonder if there’s effectively a rev limit on a standard case?

pkabush 10-08-2023 08:52 AM

Interesting. I was hoping someone would post more info on how the Tuthill build spun to 11K
Sounds like a riot. Unfortunately, I’ll likely never know.

David Inc. 10-09-2023 06:33 AM

Wild that they don't comment on cooling. I wonder how they do it?


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