HP Junkies, Turbo Suppliers,long shoot but.....

[juan ruiz]

Does any of you guys have any links from any Turbo suppliers from EUROPE ? since Im having such of lousy service in here may as well try in another country.

[beepbeep]

Please explain your question better...

What do you want and what kind of service problems do you have?

There are pretty few turbocharger manufacturers around and one of the best (Garrett) is based in US. Others are KKK (pretty good), Mitsubischi (very good) and Holset (good for trucks, not cars). I didn't hear anything about Eberspächer for a while.

If you want best turbocharger that will work well with your engine size i whole-heartedly recomend Garrett GT40BB with big turbine housing. It's latest word in turbochargers. It priced around 2200 USD here in Sweden but it's probably cheaper in US.

[juan ruiz]

beepbeep

What do you want and what kind of service problems do you have?

Well lets just start,I have in the last 3 months or so e-mailed over 8 turbocharger companys end result 0.

As you know Im not just running a typical 911,we DRAG RACE and more and more we drag race only,so Im in need of someone that will work with me on a "custom turbo" something that will give me an edge over my competitors.....

I do not need the typical B.S. Kkk or any of the ones that everyone uses since they are all useless to me.

the same way you see the racers have custom turbos, or secret turbos , that no one else uses thats what Im trying to get at .

I do have 4 turbos ready to do my own R&D since we have come to this........but Im still looking, now can you help?

[RickM]

Juan,

Not sure if this will help but this guy builds turbos to any specification... Turbojoe6638@aol.com.

Good luck

[beepbeep]

As i told you, newer Garrett GT-series of turbos are very well-done and their aerodynamics and flow paths are calculated with computer. Together with ball-bearing cartridge and their "ported-shroud" intake, it makes very flexible and easy-driven turbocharger.

What turbocharger guys do is to:

1. Mix and mach different exhaust housings and compressor housings depending on what size of engine you have and how much air you want to move.

2. "Clip" edges of compressor wings to make them act differently.

Unfortunately, there is too much of mumbo-jumbo when building "customized" turbochargers and it happends that those guys don't really know what they are doing.

I'm not sure that turbo itself will give you so much adge over your competitors, it's complete package that counts in quarter-mile context.

As i told you earlier, you might look for:

1. Hotter cams
2. Ful head-porting job
3. Real aftermarket ECU (not Bosch Moronic) with anti-lag
4. Softer rear suspension
5. Real drag-slicks
6. Modern BB-turbo

One of more well known and custumer-friendly turbo suppliers in sweden are SL-turbo:

http://www.slturbo.com

You can call them on + 46 586 431 00

I never bought stuff from them but i heard only good things.

[1fastredsc]

Hey beep beep, how does one find info on the different turbos offered by garrett? Can never find the new turbos that all these magazines talk about (trying to help my dad with picking a good turbo for his 951 beast, plus something for myself). Juan, if your dragging then a super charger might be the way for you. Although you loose peak efficiency super chargers make up for it by having almost instantaneous boost off idle to red line.

[Jocke]

Here you go Juan:
http://www.gikturbo.se/

This company is in mine opinion the best choice I can recomend you, they sell almost every brand of compressors with great knowledge of the products.

Hope it´s availble with English langue or something, othervise send me a PM and I help you out!

/Jocke

[Dutchie]

Here is a Dutch firm that does Turbo tuning http://www.turbochargers.nl/ their site is in Dutch so let me know if you need something translated you can contact them on info@turbochargers.nl

[expat]

Juan,

If you have a friend who speaks Japanese, I'd get them to do some searching around in Japan. While we might mock the RICERS, many of the tuners over there know their stuff with custom turbos.

I work at a Japanese School (albeit in Hong Kong) but if I can get some of the guys there to help out please let me know.

As I see it though, your biggest problem will be dealing on a custom job with someone geographically a long way away. Usually in the development process there's lots of back and forth R&D in custom work, but if money is not an issue...

Good luck,
Mark

[beepbeep]

GIK Turbo has pretty wide sortiment but i read a vast amount of customers complaining beacuse of bad customer treatment, failed turbochargers (which they mostly blame on the engine and refuse to replace failed part) , long delivery times etc. so I wouldn't recomend them as supplier.

These complaiments have been documented in this thread (swedish only):

http://forum.zatzy.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6082

That being said, Juan...there are heaps of things on your car that can be improved before you go and shell out money for some mumbo-jumbo turbo.

[beepbeep]

Originally posted by 1fastredsc
Hey beep beep, how does one find info on the different turbos offered by garrett? Can never find the new turbos that all these magazines talk about (trying to help my dad with picking a good turbo for his 951 beast, plus something for myself). Juan, if your dragging then a super charger might be the way for you. Although you loose peak efficiency super chargers make up for it by having almost instantaneous boost off idle to red line.

Here is a catalog over Garrett's performance products:

http://www.limitengineering.com/catalog.pdf

Lot's of info on their pages:
http://www.limitengineering.com/

[Jocke]

Originally posted by beepbeep
GIK Turbo has pretty wide sortiment but i read a vast amount of customers complaining beacuse of bad customer treatment, failed turbochargers (which they mostly blame on the engine and refuse to replace failed part) , long delivery times etc. so I wouldn't recomend them as supplier.

These complaiments have been documented in this thread (swedish only):

http://forum.zatzy.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6082

On this basis, i wouldn't recomend GIK Turbo, especially to someone who is not geographically near.

That being said, Juan...there are heaps of things on your car that can be improved before you go and shell out money for some mumbo-jumbo turbo.

Well Goran, maybe some have had problems with them, but I had some contact with them and a lot of friends to me also, and there have been no prob at all...

I wouldnt recommend any company in Sweden as supplier either in normal cases for a guy in *US but as Juan asked.....

Have you bought turbos from GIK?? NO! Have you bought turbos from other companys?? NO!

Not mean to be rude or something but you now everything you read isn´t always the truth..

My opinion!

/J

[1fastredsc]

Thanks beep.

[Amac]

Juan,
Have you tried "turbonetics", a lot of drag
racers use them. They make monster single turbos
for up to 1200hp. I know the turbos on my red car
came from them, but don't know about their service.

[rfng]

If the 1/4 is your thing, you should be lightening up your car, re-working your suspension so you can launch it at 6000 rpm and shorter gearing.

Once your have that done you should be in the 9's, then a 100-150 shot of nitrous will get you where you want to be in the 8's. The 1/4 is all about the first 60'/launch, you already have in excess of 500 horsepower just at a higher rpm, I'd work on the suspension first to make sure you can get the hardest lanch possible, this along with shorter gearing should drop you time into at least the 10's.

As for the secret turbos there great for show on the dyno, but without the transmission/launch/suspension it will all go up in smoke. I've seen your 60' times, you need to get them down to under 1 sec to be sucessful. Big horsepower is great, but a correctly set up car is the way to go, otherwise you'll be rebuilding that motor constantly. Plus all those 1000 hp + imports are not running gas, usually either alcohol, methanol or nitro along with a shot of nitrous to get going.

[beepbeep]

Err...i doubt he'll ever touch 9's in that car but if he's really really lucky he might run high 10's.

[jstgermaine]

A buddy of mine owns a custom turbo shop and gets most of his 'goodies' from Turbonetics...I think he is a 'Platinum Dealer' or something like that...anyway he can normally get you whatever for quite the discount, but he often complains about the turn around time on them shipping out parts.

FWIW-he just completed a custom set up on a 5.0l that made 856 RWHP!!! They also have an old Chevy C-10 with a Buick Indy engine making well over 1000hp!!

I can get you his number if you want it.

Oh yeah, he is also one heck of a VW guy...lots of hp coming out of his Auto-Craft engine...

[juan ruiz]

Thank you guys great help.............. well were do I start....

Is my opinion that must people dont understand my points of view but thats another story all along........

beepbeep,

I respect you opinions but I disagree in a few topics but I thank you,since you have always been there to help,regarding my set up yes it may NOT be the hottest thing after butter but imagine every time someone tells me that I need xx cams I be changing cams every day, just like 5 years ago I wanted to turbo her and over and over I was told that it was not possible but hey those are old news,I will continue with what I have since I belive in my combination, I come here less and less and during that period I have been doing my own R&D in various depts and I have reached the TOP in the Street Racing in my area to be here as I stand I had to go thru a LOT of FAST cars like a 240sx with a skyline turbo engine with over 700Rwhp and the one that make me the King until someones knock me down a Honda civic a 1400pnds car with Drag radials over 600Fwhp and the must impressive that car has run 10.99 at the track on the 1/4 mile so yes we beat a 10s car already, even if my car some day runs 10.50 at the track I be more than happy.but hey we all have our own dreams dont we...............

rfng

Thank you and yes Im a LOUSY DRIVER I have a few friends with STREET 911S on the Low low 10s so a 10 for me is a very good posibility and when I get there everyone will know about it I promise, so you mention Trans and suspension let me hear about this Im always willing to try new things

Amac
Yes I have try them zillion times just thru e-mails since I travel so much like now, but they are not the only ones is amazing how companys wont even return a e-mail not even to said screw you

expathk, Dutchie,Jocke Thank you very Much

Of couse we could sit here and argue for ever but that will be useless instead helping me could be a great idea

Thanks Again

[beepbeep]

Juan:

I just checked your site and and car specs (after long time) and found out you are running GT2 cams and lot's of other goodies i "proposed" :/ I'm sorry, i believed your car was like it was a while ago...

How is decision on aftermarket ECU going?

[juan ruiz]

beepbeep

A LOT of things have changed no need to be sorry you are from my camp you just dont know yet well to be HONEST with you thats another dilema.......... and that one come right after my turbo dilema