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Purrybonker 06-24-2003 07:04 AM

3.2 to varioram conversion
 
This topic has been kicked around, but from my searches here I can't seem to get clear whether this swap is readily doable or makes good sense.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2420446462&category=33 615

Would this be a sensible upgrade for my '87?

Just kicking tires here...

masraum 06-24-2003 07:50 AM

I think you'd run into a couple of different problems with this swap.

1. The vario-ram intakes are designed for a larger engine with different power characteristics, so it may not actually help a motor that has very different needs

2. The DME for the 3.2 isn't setup for vario-ram and the dme for later cars isn't set up for the rest of the 3.2

On another train of thought, The 3.2 intake, I believe, is a common upgrade for 930's, if it is capable of working well for a higher horse motor, then it should be good for a 3.2.

Steve Weiner @ Rennsport Systems has posted either here or on the Rennlist about 3.2 intakes not having even flow between the runners and benefitting from extrude-honing the intake to even out the flow (or something to that extent).

Drago 06-24-2003 08:10 AM

I'm pretty sure Randy W has a 3.2 with Varioram in his number 51 car. You might want to send him an email or maybe he'll chime in shortly.

ChrisBennet 06-24-2003 08:58 AM

From the link it appears you are interested in upgrading to a 3.6 Varioram motor. Your subject is a little misleading.
It would make a great upgrade. With your car's G50 tranmission you won't have the transmission issues that earlier cars sometimes have.
-Chris

masraum 06-24-2003 09:16 AM

ah, yes, without looking at the link I thought you wanted to put a vario-ram intake on a 3.2, my mistake. Yes a couple of people on the board have recently upgraded to a vario-ram 3.6, and yes, you have a great transmission for that swap as opposed to the people with the earlier 915 transmissions.

I thought Randy Wells was using a late model MAF, but the stock 3.2L intakes?

ChrisBennet 06-24-2003 09:21 AM

I'm thinking of putting a 964 dual plenum intake on my 3.2 (3.4 twin plug). I have an idea on how to run the plenum flapper using the DME...
-Chris

Purrybonker 06-24-2003 09:31 AM

Yeah - the thinking was to swap the engine to a 3.6 varioram rather than upgrade the 3.2 to varioram - sorry to mislead.

I'll try to search down some of the "converted" on this board a bit further.

The 3.6 on eBay has cycled a few times unsold, I believe, or there have been other similar 3.6's moving through eBay.

Is the asking price on this 3.6 typical or a little on the steep side?

Are there better alternatives on a cost/HP reward basis?

ChrisBennet 06-24-2003 09:40 AM

That ebay motor includes the transmission so that may have something to do with the price. The last motor I heard a price on was $7000 for a Euro 3.6 varioram.
-Chris

Drago 06-24-2003 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masraum
I thought Randy Wells was using a late model MAF, but the stock 3.2L intakes?
Could be...I know just enough to be dangerous....:cool:

don911 06-24-2003 10:42 AM

Drago is correct about Randy's car. He does have the Varioram on the 3.2.

Drago 06-24-2003 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by don911
Drago is correct about Randy's car. He does have the Varioram on the 3.2.
Don, the Round-Up is calling....you need to attend.

Bill Verburg 06-24-2003 01:06 PM

It's very doable, here is what it might look like installed in an earlier chassis,
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa..._006_small.jpg

A US version will be harder to do and have more electronic issues to deal with.


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