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Inexpensive ignition coil option?
I was reading through old posts last night and came across a thread where Roninlb and PWD72s were discussing a Beck/Arnley coil with a part number 178-8009 (for $31.00) that he picked up at a Napa store. He used it with his permatune and it seemed to work fine for him.
My question is whether this same coil would work as a backup/spare in my 73.5 T? I do have the permatune and would like to start putting together a few emergency spare parts. However with many needs for my car, a new Bosch just to have as a spare seems a little expensive. I would rather have the extra $75.00 or so to buy other bits. What do you think? Might be a cheap way to go for a little roadside insurance. Thanks - Jeff |
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Jeff, I'm hoping Ron weighs in on this...the box for the coil still sits in my garage. As far as I know, that coil got Ron from here back to New York, including runs all over the west coast. So yes, with a permatune, I think it would make a good spare. You might want to think of carrying a spare permatune as well, if that's you ignition choice. I'm sure you've read the comments here, with many guys now choosing to go MSD.
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the reply. I've read that the same coil was used from '72 on up to around '83 so I'll probably go ahead and pick up one as a spare. The permatune was installed by the previous owner just last summer when I bought the car so I'll probably stick with it for now. I've read the MSD threads but as long as the car needs many cosmetic items I can't justify buying the msd, the coil, tach adapter and plug wires. Besides, it's just a "T" ha, ha.... Jeff PS - I'll watch and see if Ron weighs in. |
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yep.. that Beck coil saw over 10k miles.. I used it because of the possible Bosch Blue Coil problems.. it was in the NAPA book as a replacement.. and Beck has a good rep.. the Permatune is a good unit if your wireing is in good shape.. nothing lasts forever. so I think many Permatune problems are due to wire problems.. I just did an MSD because I hope the multiple sparks help keep carb. spark plugs clean. and I always keep a spare coil and CD box on board for my rides...........Ron
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I have a coil I bought for my car a while back. It is a Bosch-0221122008. It has never been used. If it will work for you I'll take $20 plus shipping.
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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like the Beck coil is a good "cheap" backup to throw in the trunk with the spare cd box.
Sam - what year 911 is the bosch coil you have made for? If it doesn't work for my car I'm sure someone else would snap it up as a spare. Jeff |
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I have a 79SC. I am not sure if it will work for you or not. Actually I am not sure if it will work for mine either.
I don't know how to check the part number. |
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Sam - not sure about that part number either. I looked at the Bosch USA website but didn't find a way to search by part number. Maybe someone else will post who's familiar with that part number.
Where did you buy it at? Jeff |
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I have a 2.2 with the perma tune ignition. I am running a $30 accel coil with no problems.
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I'm running the same $30 accel coil as Keith.
Did you say you did not have a ballast resistor, Keith?
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Dan,
No ballast resistor in mine. I just hooked it up with the factory wiring. I guess I should see if the stock 69 setup had a resistor in the circuit but I do not think so.
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The later, replacement Permatune units can use the Bosch Blue coil without any hang ups, and at $29.00, a bargain.
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Keith - do you have the part number for the Accel coil? I had no luck tracking down the Beck coil yesterday. They (Napa) told me the part had been superceded... however the new part isn't even the right shape coil.
Chibone_914 - which bosch coil? When I look online for my 73 coil the bosch I see is about $110.00? Thanks - Jeff |
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"Any quality ignition coil will work with the Perma-Tune, however some "high performance" coils may cause flash over in the distributor cap".
go here to find all about permatune. Some good stuff. http://www.perma-tune.com/Technical%20Support/technical_support-1.htm |
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The Accel model number is 8140. You can find it at www.summitracing.com as part number ACC-8140 for 27.50. I am sure most Autozone's, CarQuest etc. should carry them. It is just called a Universal Coil from Accel. Mine is a 50,000volt model.
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Alan - thanks for the link. I have the Permatune coil but am looking for a "cheap" backup in case of emergency.
Keith - thanks for the part number. Looks like the way to go. No problems just bolting it straight in? Jeff |
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I bolted mine into the stock mount and used the factory wiring. Here is a picture I posted about engine decals, but you get the idea of how the coil is installed.
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Thanks Keith,
I'm out the door to pick up one locally for $31.00. Jeff |
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