Moving a windshield washer fluid bottle on a 73

[kazooward]

The 73 Targa I am restoring originally had A/C which has long since been removed. I would like to move the windshield washer bottle from it's location near the back of the trunk near the firewall to the standard position in the front of the car. Does anyone have pictures or information on how the bottle is secured to the front wall of the trunk, including straps, brackets, etc.

thanks

John

[Joe Bob]

Should sit in the fender well in front of the gas filler neck. Don't know why it would be located in the trunk. Is there another oil cooler on the driver side as well as the passenger side?

Pics of your washer bottle's current location would help.

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by Joe Bob

Should sit in the fender well in front of the gas filler neck. Don't know why it would be located in the trunk. Is there another oil cooler on the driver side as well as the passenger side?

Pics of your washer bottle's current location would help.

Joe Bob:

The long noses (65-73 cars) have their washer bottles in the Frunk. The battery boxes that protrude into the fender area prevent the bottle from fitting in the wheel well.

Part of the reason the 73 RS had a front cooler instead of one in the fender was due to those battery boxes.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by Joe Bob

Should sit in the fender well in front of the gas filler neck. Don't know why it would be located in the trunk. Is there another oil cooler on the driver side as well as the passenger side?

No, not on a '73, or earlier.

My '73.5 targa actually had it attached to the latching bulkhead inside the very front of the trunk.
It uses air pressure from the spare via a hose (like the early VW beetle) to supply pressure. There is no pump.

It has a full size spare, not the collapsible one.

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by tcar

No, not on a '73, or earlier.

My '73.5 Targa actually has attached to the latching bulkhead at the very front of the trunk.
It uses air pressure from the spare via a hose (like the early VW beetle) to supply pressure. There is no pump.

It has a full size spare, not the collapsible one.

Are you sure you have a stock setup? Looking at the PET for a 1970-1973 Porsche, they show only one set up, a tank with a washer pump. This is consistent with what I read in my owners manual.



In my 1973.5 it is a switch on the wiper stalk on the steering column. If it is like my 1970 bus (uses air pressure), then you need a valve to let the fluid flow (the valve is integrated into the switch on my dash board, later buses had it integrated into the wiper switch on the steering column). Where is yours located?

[kazooward]

My washer fluid bottle has an electric pump and was located at the back of the trunk area due to the ductwork and blower of the A/C system preventing it from being located in the front of the trunk. It must rest in the left front of the suspension pan so that the filler neck will go through a hole on the latch cross brace which is to the right of the latch assembly as you face the trunk. What I need to know is how it is attached to the front of the trunk ( rubber strap, bracket, bolts ?) and if anyone knows of any pictures showing details of it's attachment.

Thanks

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by kazooward

My washer fluid bottle has an electric pump and was located at the back of the trunk area due to the ductwork and blower of the A/C system preventing it from being located in the front of the trunk. It must rest in the left front of the suspension pan so that the filler neck will go through a hole on the latch cross brace which is to the right of the latch assembly as you face the trunk. What I need to know is how it is attached to the front of the trunk ( rubber strap, bracket, bolts ?) and if anyone knows of any pictures showing details of it's attachment.

Thanks

My 1973.5 is an AC car with the washer tank/pump in front of the blower in the frunk. I have seen the other install at the slam panel in other cars as well.

[enzoducoing]

Is this what you need?

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by kazooward

My washer fluid bottle has an electric pump and was located at the back of the trunk area due to the ductwork and blower of the A/C system preventing it from being located in the front of the trunk. It must rest in the left front of the suspension pan so that the filler neck will go through a hole on the latch cross brace which is to the right of the latch assembly as you face the trunk. What I need to know is how it is attached to the front of the trunk ( rubber strap, bracket, bolts ?) and if anyone knows of any pictures showing details of it's attachment.

Thanks

This is from memory as my 73.5 is gone.

The washer tank pressure fits into the area you describe against the latch bulkhead. The neck fits through the hole in the bulkhead brace by tilting the tank rearward. The tank has a molded indent and lip on the bottom that snaps into place as you push the tank forward toward the bulkhead. There are no straps to hold the tank. Since your front pan area was modified for AC, it's possible the metal that held the bottom of the tank in place was removed.

I'm sure some one will post a picture of the long hood set up as my memory is not all that clear.

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by enzoducoing

Is this what you need?

I believe the OP was looking for the installation of the washer bottle in the very front of the car not against the blower bulkhead.

Also, for the record, part of your trunk (which look really nice) has a non-stock install. The black box next to the washer tank is for the evaporative emissions control system and the factory installed that under the cowl lip to the right of the washer tank.

[E Sully]

Here are pictures showing the small finger bracket on the front suspension pan, and the washer for non A/C cars. The bottom of the washer reservoir sits in the fingers, with the filler neck protruding through the bulkhead hole. As Harry stated, that picture is for cars with A/C.
I'm not sure how the wiring would be adapted for the move.

[tops911]

enzoducoing, do you have more info on your washer bottle? What washer bottle is that? is it a stock Porsche bottle?
I really like your setup and would like to copy your setup.
Thanks

[RSTarga]

That looks like the standard 73 bottle. Normal location is behind slam panel. Slide the neck into the hole that has a rubber gasket and then the tank drops into the lip welded into the slam panel. Pump is on the tank.

[enzoducoing]

Originally Posted by tops911

enzoducoing, do you have more info on your washer bottle? What washer bottle is that? is it a stock Porsche bottle?
I really like your setup and would like to copy your setup.
Thanks

It is a stock Porsche bottle sold by our host here1971 Porsche 911 T Coupe/Targa - Wipers and Washers - Page 2
My 1971 911T came with the bottle already in that position with the overlaping base soldered to the body and the rubber strap holding it down. I do not know if this was stock in the '71 911T but I kept it in that place, I only renewed all the components (new bottle cap, lines, washer pump, etc.)

[kazooward]

The location shown in the picture by HarryD is where my tank was originally located because the car came with A/C. Now that I am going to move it to the slam panel in the front, I will have to move the finger bracket to the location that E Sully shows on the suspension pan. All that will be left to do is to round up a gasket that will fit the hole in the slam panel and will accept the fill neck on the tank.

Should be an easy fix

thanks again

John

[tops911]

thanks. I think that will be the next project for my car, when I get to see it in about 2 years

[littleoldman]

Why even add one? I never use it, even on my newer cars. Makes a mess. Wait till you get home and wipe down the windshield. No dirty streaks on the paint.

Also - saves 3 lbs when "full of fluid"

[Artfrombama]

Originally Posted by enzoducoing

Is this what you need?

Originally Posted by HarryD

I believe the OP was looking for the installation of the washer bottle in the very front of the car not against the blower bulkhead.

Also, for the record, part of your trunk (which look really nice) has a non-stock install. The black box next to the washer tank is for the evaporative emissions control system and the factory installed that under the cowl lip to the right of the washer tank.

My 73.5 car has AC and the washer bottle is attached with non-factory parts and not at all secure. Does the AC car require a special relocated bottle and hardware?

[Fabian Friedman]

What is the proper window washer fluid bottle location for a 73 911T Targa with factory AC? Also the black box for evaporative emissions control. Does anyone have pictures of the straps or attachment devices?

[HarryD]

Originally Posted by Fabian Friedman

What is the proper window washer fluid bottle location for a 73 911T Targa with factory AC? Also the black box for evaporative emissions control. Does anyone have pictures of the straps or attachment devices?

The correct location for the washer bottle is in the cardboard separator in the frunk near the dashboard. There is a clip welded on the frunk floor and a bungee cord to hold it there.

The black cap box is under the cowl and there are two metal tabs that allow the use of a square rubber band to hold it in place.

Washer fluid tank on cardboard cover:


Base of washer tank:


Evap box under cowl: