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T77911S 11-14-2024 04:01 AM

Windshield replaced no have gap
 
They replaced my windshield when my car was painted and it has a big gap on drivers side at top. And yes water pours in.
Is this a bad windshield that doesn’t fit or poor installation. Which I can’t image because these guys do top notch work.
Any suggestions. Before I take it back.
I’m sure it was a factory windshield as I don’t think they allowed to use aftermarket parts
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731589219.jpg

2.7RS 11-14-2024 04:51 AM

Buy the brand new updated URO seal. The lip is bigger.

There is a whole thread about it

Shaun @ Tru6 11-14-2024 05:12 AM

I can't believe the paint shop gave the car back to you like that. I've always used Porsche seals in all windows with 100% success rate though it's been years since I've put a windshield in.

RNajarian 11-14-2024 05:44 AM

Only have someone familiar with 911 windshields install a windshield. I had a chimpanzee use a rubber mallet to pound the aluminum trim in place once, resulting in dents and ruining the trim. When I called him on it he said “you gave it to me like that.”

Photos of the trim I had taken on the dash of the car with the window out proved otherwise.

I agree on using a wider seal.

Good luck

AndrewCologne 11-14-2024 05:45 AM

The paint shop should know how to do it.
If needed bend the rubber trim so its radius fits.
Second: Insert a piece of wire into the gap in the rubber before the windshield comes in - this acts like a spacer, .. here choose the needed wire thickness or even two. After that it fits perfectly.
See this post of a thread where we restored a 911 s from 1975. You can use an online translator.
Elfertreff - Das 911 & Porsche Forum - Einzelnen Beitrag anzeigen - Bruno’s Targa im neuen Gewand

john walker's workshop 11-14-2024 10:02 AM

Should have molded some strip caulk, dum dum, inside all the corners rto help support the seal lip.

86911cab 11-14-2024 12:24 PM

That windshield is incorrect. The right glass would close that gap. It’s too short at the corner. The kind of weather stripping used on these cars doesn’t need any sealer. It just zips in and the center rubber holds it together.

FA-18C 11-14-2024 05:07 PM

The corners are critical to fit. Did mine a year ago and the shop was shrugging. Asked for a mallet and dowel and tapped the corner trim for fitment. Seated well, no gaps. Their eyes bugged out, but got the job finished.

rowingone 11-14-2024 06:57 PM

Its not the windshield . . its the trim. Take a small piece of wood shaped to the curve and a rubber mallet and gently pound the trim outward to make it conform to the curve at the corner.

mike sampsel 11-15-2024 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowingone (Post 12358210)
Its not the windshield . . its the trim. Take a small piece of wood shaped to the curve and a rubber mallet and gently pound the trim outward to make it conform to the curve at the corner.


I used shims for the small piece of wood. Easy to shape too, I used the Porsche seal.

walt 11-15-2024 04:32 AM

I had the same thing on my first go around. On second attempt I pulled on the seal in the corners as the rope was slowly pulled from the inside. If you aren't comfortable with the suggestions of using wood and a mallet, take it back and tell them to do it right. Surprised they would deliver it this way.

FA-18C 11-15-2024 07:08 AM

Exactly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rowingone (Post 12358210)
Its not the windshield . . its the trim. Take a small piece of wood shaped to the curve and a rubber mallet and gently pound the trim outward to make it conform to the curve at the corner.

"Gently" means enough to shape the trim in the corners and allow the seal to fit. It was NOT bashing hard. I also used the Porsche seal and have excellent fitment - the URO seal was unavailable at the time. Got rid of some minor wind noise, but who am I kidding, it is a Targa, and not the poster child of quiet to begin with.

75 911s 11-15-2024 07:19 AM

Don't worry about it. Good enough for Singer, good enough for you!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731687545.jpg

(Just kidding, and yes that's a Singer I took a pic of at Luft10)

The window has to come back out, it's probably not fully set into the bottom pinch weld that the rubber rides on. It appears to be too low in the frame as a result of missing the lip. If you can easily push the window from the inside and it moves, it's not set in the bottom correctly.

Test it like this, get in your car and press against the middle bottom of the window outward. Does it move? it's not seated right.

911obgyn 11-15-2024 08:16 AM

It took me a couple tries, centering windshield, placing spacers next to glass in the corners, using wood shim and gently pushing trim out in corners. I did put some butyl tape in corners also. Found that double wrapping pull string made it easier.
I would take it back with all suggestions and have them fix it if i paid for install.

shoooo32 11-15-2024 09:02 AM

Ha! Not the first Singer I've seen with the seal lipped in. I gave the owner a hard time, identifying that clearly not everything is important ;)

al lkosmal 11-16-2024 09:30 AM

shim
 
i've used wood shims.......round off the thin edge and
use it to form the metal trim. I used a rubber mallet to gently tap the shim to guide and form the metal trim piece into the corner......closing the gap.........

Here's an earlier post that has pix.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/330161-gap-between-rubber-windshield-seal-body-5.html#post3912956

T77911S 11-21-2024 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86911cab (Post 12358009)
That windshield is incorrect. The right glass would close that gap. It’s too short at the corner. The kind of weather stripping used on these cars doesn’t need any sealer. It just zips in and the center rubber holds it together.

That’s what I was thinking. There is a problem with the glass
This is a Porsches certified shop/tech although not certified in older cars as I don’t think there is a cert for them
All parts are OEM. From dealer.
I believe they still have the old glass so I am going to suggest pulling this one out and comparing them.

David Inc. 11-21-2024 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al lkosmal (Post 12359000)
i've used wood shims.......round off the thin edge and
use it to form the metal trim. I used a rubber mallet to gently tap the shim to guide and form the metal trim piece into the corner......closing the gap.........

Here's an earlier post that has pix.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/330161-gap-between-rubber-windshield-seal-body-5.html#post3912956

Can confirm that this works, even for a guy who has no idea how to do body or glass work.

47silver 11-21-2024 10:58 AM

the rubber mallet and wood cut to the curve thin enough to fit under the lip between the rubber and glass works.. I did 2 windshields and had to use that method to get them to fit.
only use a rubber mallet for obvious reasons.

Queefchief 11-22-2024 05:28 AM

Have them use the new URO seal. Works so much better


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