3.2 Oil Catch Can

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Hey,
Like the title says, I decided to do a breather catch catch can to minimize oil mist into the intake. The Radium Engineering can:

The bracket to mount the can on to the left manifold where the old blower motor was mounted:


I bought this tube beading kit a long time ago for a radiator and intercooler project:









The result, 1" beaded breather hose connections:


The kit was from the 50's, made by Parker, of Parker Hannefin fame.

Will have more pics after install.

[pampadori]

Poor mans bead roller tip-
I had to make an oil pipe and needed the ends to have a bead to improve clamp seal on it. I modified a pair of wire crimp pliers in order to make a bead roller tool. It ended up working very well on the steel pipe that I used.
I just ground the ends off the wire crimp pliers. They were $7 at the harbor freight house of chinesium.

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Originally Posted by pampadori

Poor mans bead roller tip-
I had to make an oil pipe and needed the ends to have a bead to improve clamp seal on it. I modified a pair of wire crimp pliers in order to make a bead roller tool. It ended up working very well on the steel pipe that I used.
I just ground the ends off the wire crimp pliers. They were $7 at the harbor freight house of chinesium.

Necessity is the mother of invention, nicely done! That's how a fabricator does things, use the wrong tool for the right job, and get er done.
I have carbide tool marks on my walls from doing the wrong things with machine tools to achieve the goal.
The nice thing about the Parker tools all components roll and actually burnish the metal while forming it. The aluminum tube is 6160/T5, I actually heated it to remove the hardness and quickly beaded it before the temper came back. The only tubing available on eBay in the right size was the 4' length of 6061/T5. In retrospect I probably should have found some thin wall copper, but, this is how I rolled.

[pampadori]

That tool set is pretty awesome looking! It's one of those tools that'll be seldom used but will make you excited to use it when a project comes along that needs it!
My idea of heaven includes tool shopping with an amex black card between steak dinners

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Originally Posted by pampadori

That tool set is pretty awesome looking! It's one of those tools that'll be seldom used but will make you excited to use it when a project comes along that needs it!
My idea of heaven includes tool shopping with an amex black card between steak dinners

Funny, when I was a working aircraft mechanic it was one of those tools that was "known" at our airport as the only one on the field. Fast forward I always had the tool on my list. Every kit I came across was incomplete, broken or otherwise not satisfactory.
One came available so I snapped it up and didn't use it for almost a year. In the kitplane world guys using the Rotax 912 series use almost everything but the right process to connect the water hoses. I have seen knurling, hand flaring and just about everything else that can be imagined. The key for proper hose sealing at low pressures, is a bead done to MILSPEC MS33660D and SAE AS5131 standards and constant tension clamping system. Worm gear hose clamps are iffy when vibration is present and can cut the hose.
The really cool thing is the set has been brought back:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/parkerbead.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4onS77nL4wIVCtvAC h3kWgnsEAQYBCABEgKehvD_BwE

For the more geeky tool heads:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ksruckerowwm

or

https://www.youtube.com/user/syyl

While I really enjoy EpicFails, these types are my go to.

P.S. Who doesn't like an original Bakelite storage box?

[3rd_gear_Ted]

Have you considered mounting the oil mist can in the left rear wheel well ???
Engine stays cleaner

[Trackrash]

Great info. This should be added to the "how to" section.

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Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted

Have you considered mounting the oil mist can in the left rear wheel well ???
Engine stays cleaner

I am using the "can" to trap oil mist before venting into the intake elbow. I was trying to minimize the addition of hosing and cutting of the sheetmetal. Plus the Radium can is a really nice piece of kit, with a dipstick and ability to drain the oil mayo dregs out of the bottom half. I wanted it to be easily accessible, for service at each oil change.

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The Install,



A few angles, wanted it to look fairly OEM. I was initially worried that the 3/4" in and out on the can was going to be a restriction, given the breather line is 1". Then I remembered the little "coolie hat" in the line right after the oil tank. I did take care to insure there were no traps, the hoses are either going up or down no matter how slight. Took it out for a drive, no difference.

[UROParts]

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

The really cool thing is the set has been brought back:

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/parkerbead.php?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4onS77nL4wIVCtvAC h3kWgnsEAQYBCABEgKehvD_BwE

That beading kit is fantastic. If you owned one, you'd be prowling for opportunities to use it.

[pampadori]

Let me know what you think after the first time you drain the can. I drained mine after a few thousand miles just after motor rebuild. The 3oz of fluid that came out was almost clear and smelled just like damson moonshine! I swear, it was as if my crankcase had been making hooch!

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Well,
Oil change at 2900 miles, mostly mountain driving, more than 3000 miles.

German Krapachino:




All scientific and stuff:

[Locker537]

Any thoughts on running something like this on a car running webers?

The amount of "mayo" in my breather hoses is quite surprising.

[911pcars]

There are several shapes and sizes of wide mouth Nalgene bottles that can be adapted and modified (USPlastics.com), ideal for mounting a breather cap or hose to atmosphere as well as aftermarket products. If the oil labyrinth effectively separates the oil from the fumes, you could redirect into the intake. Nice job. I'd prefer some way of inspecting the level and appearance of what's inside and a convenient drain.



The contents can reveal engine symptoms or the results of your operating conditions.

This could be inside. Cue the dramatic soundtrack:


Sherwood

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I decided that this was a need, after researching direct fuel injection and finding out that the intake valves were suffering without the fuel washing off PCV vapors from the valve.
I did not want to purchase another ICV valve, spendy little buggers. This system will prevent the random byproducts of combustion from being deposited into the intake elbow, throttle body, intake runners and finally the intake port and valve.
For not a lot of money and effort, I kept that goop out of my intake and combustion chamber.
Radium makes some really trick fittings and the hose is silicone I got on eBay. I ordered spring hose clamps and made my own connectors. Couple a c-notes give or take.
http://www.radiumauto.com/Universal-Single-Catch-Can-P178.aspx
https://youtu.be/0TlxcOxbtTk
https://youtu.be/T-B4VRxAtbw

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Originally Posted by Locker537

Any thoughts on running something like this on a cab running webers?

The amount of "mayo" in my breather hoses is quite surprising.

Watch the videos above, decide for yourself. It would keep the PCV smegs off the road and your car in any case.

[Locker537]

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Watch the videos above, decide for yourself. It would keep the PCV smegs off the road and your car in any case.

Yep, I'm familiar with them on LS engines, etc, but never experienced the amount of byproduct as with my 911.

Since the breather hoses feed into the rain hats on the carbs, a catch can is really more about cleanliness and easy cleaning than anything else. The air coming out of the breather has to go through the carb air filter.

I might experiment with mounting one to see how much it catches.

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The amount of smeg in my catch can proves that engines are engines.

[Fever]

Good setup indeed!

[trentwat]

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

The bracket to mount the can on to the left manifold where the old blower motor was mounted:

I want to keep my blower motor…are there any other mounting locations you considered?