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jhelgesen 07-12-2003 02:08 PM

How red should the shroud be?
 
Hey Guys, I'm spending the weekend cleaning and painting my engine tin and shroud on my 3.0. The shroud is a little faded and tired, want to repaint the red.

Whats the shade of red it should be? The faded color looks like it has a lot of orange in it.

Thanks!

RoninLB 07-12-2003 02:46 PM

the stock color is part of the gel coat on the glass.. if I wanted to maintain stock I'd pull it and polish it with some white polishing Dupont.. with a lamb wool buffer at about 1,200-1,400 rpm.. painting is a personal opnion...........Ron

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/RedShroud23.JPG

724doorE 07-12-2003 04:21 PM

sweet, you know your way around a buffer;)

MotoSook 07-12-2003 06:19 PM

Mine was cracked and looked too crappy to buff...so I got a can of Chevy Orange Red. It is pretty close, but then I am a bit color blind :(

Should work. I epoxied the cracks and applied a thin coat around areas where the gelcoat looked especially bad.

How's it look?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/clean motor.JPG

RoninLB 07-12-2003 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 724doorE


sweet, you know your way around a buffer;)
well.. that's an exotic stock Porsche red..

right now there are only two pelican heads/only two in the whole country with that shroud color.. but #3 is in progress right now..

and your gel coat can be buffed to a shine.. and it'll stay that way for awhile.. you'll have a good looking stock shroud..........Ron

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...reInstall1.jpg

kstylianos 07-12-2003 06:25 PM

Ron,

Thats a great looking shroud. I wonder who's it is?;)

724doorE 07-12-2003 06:26 PM

Wonder what a green one looks like buffed up? Might fit good with a Chartruese hotrod

RoninLB 07-12-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Souk

How's it look?



great contrast with the black.. the pic looks like a "clean" job..

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RoninLB 07-12-2003 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kstylianos
Ron,

Thats a great looking shroud. I wonder who's it is?;)


there's power in humility, LOL.. and you saved me an e-mail, LOL

RoninLB 07-12-2003 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 724doorE

Wonder what a green one looks like buffed up?
probably like the ground at 4am Sunday, after 2 straight days of partying ..............Ron

MotoSook 07-12-2003 06:37 PM

Ron, I think the shine of the new paint and powdercoating is worth about 10 HP's :D

Zeke 07-12-2003 07:04 PM

If you wanted to maintain the stock color, maybe you could sand it a bit and clear coat it. Let the original gel coat show through.

724doorE 07-12-2003 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoninLB
probably like the ground at 4am Sunday, after 2 straight days of partying ..............Ron
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RoninLB 07-12-2003 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeke

you could sand it a bit and clear coat it. Let the original gel coat show through.
yeah... your probably right..
probably a semi-gloss instead of high-gloss to fake the whole thing to new stock..
he would probably only have to hand compound it.. the clear would add the shine .................Ron

RoninLB 07-12-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Souk

Ron, I think the shine of the new paint and powdercoating is worth about 10 HP's :D
maybe something like that..

how about the stock gel coat boundary air is negated by the new tight structural ridges of the paint finish.. so it would be a better heat conductor.. something like polishing heads.. so the engine heat being transferred to the inside of the shroud is thrown off faster/more efficently.. so the engine has a better heat envelope.. and if you could estimate this in BTUs, then convert to HP.. I think we would be figuring 10hp..............Ron

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pwd72s 07-12-2003 07:46 PM

HOOT!

jriera 07-13-2003 05:47 AM

As part of my engine drop to fix oil and fuel leaks and thanks to Ron (RoninLB) patience, instructions and guidance I went from this old, tired looking, leaking 2.4 (CIS) engine:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...ine_old_jr.jpg


to this old, but nice looking (and hopefuly not leaking) 2.4 engine:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...ine_new_jr.jpg

'Magic' red paint formula plus black POR-15, some (a lot of) sanding and patience, plus Ron support did the trick (I think), I must be the #3 that Ron mention in a previous post in this thread.

Ron, I will take some better pictures later for your 'collection'. Thanks.

Randy Webb 07-13-2003 11:35 AM

How long will the paint stay on the shroud w/o flaking? That'd be my concern. I have one with a few areas of flaking. Next engine gets a polished red shroud w/o paint.

RoninLB 07-13-2003 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy Webb

How long will the paint stay on the shroud w/o flaking?
a legitmate concern.

the pre install pic I posted reads 98 11 19. that's camera speak for Nov. 19, 1998.. that's about 40k miles ago.. it's slightly darker now, but not much.
so Porsche Ruby Red shroud #1 is still perfect.. PRR#2 is an exact copy of fiberglass/acrylic-urethane technique #1.. and I'm sure "in-progress" #3 will keep the flow.. right Jordi.
Fiberglass/gel coat prep, maintaining glass breathing, thickness of paint layers, and technique for shroud edges all come into play to prevent "flaking". I'm sure that when I pull the engine soon a 10 minute hand polish will return it to brand new.
................Ron


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