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EWPurdy 07-14-2003 05:02 PM

Frankenditioner DIY A/C Project....
 
I'm going through the various options to update my 911SC A/C system and have a question for the assembled masses. I have a 911SC with carbs :) and hence no room for a decklid condenser. I've talked to Griffiths and Performance Aire about their setups. Griffiths recommends their $2500 job including Dual Kuehl Condensers in the wheelwell. Performance Air would sell me their underbody condenser but said I really need 3 condensers to keep up with my South Texas climate.

After looking high and low on the net, I found the following products and was curious what you all thought. The first is a dual condenser with fan and sells for $249. The second is a similar unit with a single condenser for $161. I'm leaning toward the larger one provided I can squeeze it into a wheelwell.

Any thoughts? Is 21,000 BTU overkill?

Thanks

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scottb 07-14-2003 05:23 PM

They're interesting, to say the least. Where do you propose mounting them?

I'm in the process of putting a fan/condenser unit into the front left fender of my car. It's about 18x8x4, and though I think it's going to fit just fine, it's going to be a tight fit with a rock guard in place. I can't imagine something 16x12 (give or take) would fit up there, especially when you put some sort of rock guard on it.

Can you provide a web address so we can get more info on the condensers? Tell us more about what you're thinking of doing.

EWPurdy 07-14-2003 05:38 PM

Here's the link:
 
Right now I'm still in the planning phase but didn't care for the PRICES the experts were quoting. I found these at:

www.danhard.com


Maybe I should just "GO FOR IT"! and mount one of these on the roof?

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EWPurdy 07-14-2003 05:41 PM

BTW - Where did you get your condenser and what was the price???

masraum 07-14-2003 05:53 PM

The dual unit sounds interesting. Griffiths puts theirs in the driver's side behind the rear wheel. there is a fair amount of room there. I think the a key point would be to keep the catalytic converter heat away from it. I have looked at some of the Griffiths stuff and while they look good, they seem really expensive.

scottb 07-14-2003 05:54 PM

Keep in mind that you'll have to add the cost a hose to what you're paying for the fan/condenser. I bought my condenser/fan assembly from www.iceac.com. I paid $295 for it, which included the condenser, the fan, a hose, and some bracketry. Bob is the contact there. Once you remove the washer bottle and vapor recovery tank, the condenser/fan assembly fits pretty nicely in the front left fenderwell, though I'm having to fabricate some of my own brackets. (It's definitely not a "turn key" installation.) The units on the Danhard page are VERY impressive, but I'm worried about them fitting. Maybe Danhard can make up a custom unit that's a bit smaller. Spal makes a variety of smaller fans. Click here (http://www.spal-usa.com/html/dampframe.htm) and then go to fans.

You might considering getting a block of styrofoam and cutting it to approximate the size of the two condensers. Then, pull the front tire and play around a bit to see if you can make either of them fit. I think it's going to be a challenge, unfortunately.

Steve is right...the rear left fenderwell does have a bunch of room, but the catalytic converter and exhaust are right there. So, though you'll have a great deal of condenser surface to eject the heat, the condenser will be operating in a really hot area, especially in traffic where there's no airflow over the exhaust system. It's for that reason that I opted not to buy the Griffiths part, and instead went with the one up front.

Keep us posted.

EWPurdy 07-14-2003 05:59 PM

I just measured back there (rear WW). It would be a very interesting fit IF it worked. Looks to be too tight though.

--- Luckily for me, I have no cat. ;)

jtratza 07-14-2003 07:42 PM

I live in Houston. Nothing is overkill when it comes to AC down here. Too bad I have a Targa 'cause the roof top unit would be perfect for summer driving. Maybe it could be made into a duck tail configuration?

masraum 07-14-2003 08:11 PM

Hey, awesome, I commute in Houston everyday. My AC has needed a charge for two years. Two summers ago I got laid off, no fixing it then, last summer I had just gotten a job back, so no extra expenditures then either. This summer so far I have been fine, I never really sit in traffic in the morning, so windows down is fine, and then in the afternoon I miss the traffic again and go topless. I do plan on fixing it though, probably this winter.

My current thoughts are to go with the underbody condensor from Performance Aire. So far it seems like the best option.

Kemo 07-15-2003 04:53 AM

Eric,

I saw a really trick setup from a guy here in Dallas that upgraded his SC to a C2 or 993 condenser in the driver side front fender well. I beleive that was his only condenser and he really liked the performance. I beleive his name is Ken, but I am not exactly sure about that. Hopefully, he will chime in and give some details. He removed his rear condenser because he was utilizing a fully functioning C2 decklid.


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