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BGCarrera32 07-24-2003 11:55 AM

Where can you get an IROC tail/lid?
 
Like this one... (I'd give photo credit for it but I don't know who's it is...) :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059076519.jpg

masraum 07-24-2003 12:04 PM

gt racing has them in two widths, one full iroc width, one in a smaller size which is not actually IROC. It's actually the same tail used on the early turbos and Carrera's after '74. It's what prompted the name "whaletail". You could probably get an "early turbo tail" at lots of FG places if you called and asked.

BGCarrera32 07-24-2003 12:08 PM

I think I'm after the narrower one like the one pictured...thanks! At first glance it doesn't look like they have the narrow one.

Jack Olsen 07-24-2003 12:16 PM

Isn't that an early Turbo (or Carrera 3.0) tail?

Jadams1 07-24-2003 12:23 PM

It's a 1976 turbo whale tail. I picked mine up from a fellow pelicanhead "magillia" for $350. The 77 turbo whale tail looks similar with a slightly larger secondary grill. The secondary grill was for a auxillary engine oil cooler. I see them on e-bay once and a while. Here's a pic of mine.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059078166.jpg

Bill Verburg 07-24-2003 12:34 PM

Thats an early 930 tail, the early Carrera tails were the same but w/o the smaal slots in the aft edge, 934 was the same but had bigger slots in the aft edge.

A true IROC tail is much longer and wider but has the same general shape. tHe folowing are poor shots of cars w/ IROC tails
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059078784.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059078807.jpg

Jack Olsen 07-24-2003 12:40 PM

Did the IROC tail ever come with a rubber lip -- and was it ever available for street cars?

Mine is wide and all fiberglass, but it's also aftermarket.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...ngleRear-T.jpg

Bill Verburg 07-24-2003 12:44 PM

Thats another difference, only the street cars had rubber lips, the IROCs were all f/g/ From the width yours looks to be an IROC.

stomachmonkey 07-24-2003 12:55 PM

there are a few on ebay right now,

this one just sold

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2424089317&category=42 606&rd=1

a kinda ratty one from PAR but might go cheap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2423824367&category=67 62&rd=1

this one is priced to high, it won't get any bids. I'd contact him after the auction or place a late bid and make him an offer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2424498222&category=42 611

They show up fairly frequently and go for under $400.


Regards,
Scott

Bill Verburg 07-24-2003 03:08 PM

The Par one is a 934 tail, big grill

http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...0c1eb7/i-1.JPG

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059088069.jpg

Mr9146 07-24-2003 03:31 PM

Jack, I'm going to call you tonight.

Everyone else ...

The IROC tale, affectionately known as the "Tea Tray", never came with a rubber lip. It was not sold on street cars. There were teams, however, that modified these tales post-IROC series - modifications included lips and coolers.

The tail which is my personal favorite was done by the Martini team on one of their RSRs from the mid-70s. It was a Duck tail, but the rear fenders had molded lips that met up with the Duck tail to form one big wing around the cars a$$. I think it's called the Queen Victoria or Queen Anne ... something about British Royalty or something. I can't find any pictures to post, but this car usually makes an appearance at the Monterey Historics ... it's totally beechin.

Bill Verburg 07-25-2003 03:27 PM

Finally found a pic of the regular f/g tail from that era

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1059175338.jpg

GeorgeK 07-31-2003 11:55 PM

A Few (de)tails:
The 2nd grille on the Turbo 3.0 varied in size depending on wether the car had AC or not, and depending on the year. Only the '77 with AC had the larger 2nd grille.
The "IROC" tail was available in the exact same shape, with the rubber lip, on the RSR 3.0.
GeorgeK

Paul491 08-01-2003 09:20 AM

Alas, Mr9146, I think this may be the "personal favorite tail" you were looking for...

http://www.pelicanparts.com/pmpre/im...SR_2.8_-_a.jpg

My Menory has been fading over the years, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the #46 car was a 1973 2.8 Martini Racing/Factory works car. It sported a "Mary Stewart Collar" tail for greater downforce while racing in the Prototype Class and achiving 1st in class and 4th overall?

Early_S_Man 08-13-2003 10:18 PM

The IROC whaletail with rubber lip was, in fact, sold on one 'street' car ... the 1974 RS 3.0, which actually came with both long and short versions ... some governments didn't like the fact that the tail stuck out past the rear bumper!

nick-moss 08-14-2003 12:05 AM

I have a rubber lipped 53" 3.0 RS tail and will be fitting ot to my 74 Carrera

nick-moss 08-14-2003 05:07 AM

This is the genuine 3.0 RS article. It's the same size (53") as the IROC spoiler, but with a rubber lip. It's quite a bit larger than the one that BGCarrera32 is after

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060866381.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060866391.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060866402.jpg

Jadams1 08-14-2003 06:08 AM

Nick Moss,

That's a rare looking tail. I checked out your website links, nice work!

Porsche Doc 08-24-2019 06:26 AM

Where are the original IROC tails attached to the metal deck lids?
I recently got one and it is attached to a metal lid.
I know the authentic duck tales were made that way.
In all of my years of Porsche restorations I have never seen one like this one.


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