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Painting the Ducktail, Part II
For those who missed Part I, you can find it here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122068&highlight=duckta il
Friday night. Because I couldn’t come up with a way to paint both sides of the ducktail at once I had to tape off the top part and paint the bottom part first. What you need for this is painting paper. Do not use newspaper or you will end up with paper fibers in your paint. You also need masking tape made for painting. You can find this at your paint store along with the painting paper. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060610870.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060610898.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060610931.jpg |
I decided to go with a base coat - clear coat system. So first the base coat, Guards Red. First wipe down the piece with grease/wax remover. Then use a tack rag to get the dust off. On the spray gun, notice that I use a secondary moisture separator at the gun along with the moisture separator at the compressor. Moisture and oil are the two major curses of painting.
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611185.jpg Once the base coat is on (which dries to a semi dull finish) it is time for the clear coat. I did not sand the base coat as there was no appreciable dust and no bugs in the paint. The base coat flashed off in about 5 minutes to the touch, but I waited 20 minutes before applying the clear coat. While the clear coat dries nice and shiny, I have a fair amount of orange peel to sand out. I think what happened was as the morning progressed the wind came up and the paint was drying to quickly. I should have quit for the day, but you know how things go when the urge to paint comes up! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611220.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611251.jpg |
Something weird happened in a couple of places, the clear coat melted through the base coat exposing the primer. I’ll have to touch that up.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611352.jpg Sunday morning. After allowing the paint to cure for 24 hours, it is time to wet sand and then buff out the paint. Remember, you only want to wet sand and buff the clear coat. You do not want to sand down to the base coat or you will be repainting! For wet sanding I started with 1500 wet/dry paper and progressed to 2000 wet/dry paper. Make sure you have plenty of water! As you sand you will see the water on the ducktail get a milky color. If it turns a red color, you went through the clear coat! As you can see, when you are done, the paint is quite dull. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611389.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611405.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611424.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611442.jpg |
For buffing I started with a medium cut rubbing compound and a machine buffer with a wool bonnet. I heard that foam works better, but I didn’t want to spend $50.00 for a foam pad and backing pad when I already had the wool bonnet. MAJOR WARNING! Don’t use too much pressure or stay in one place to long with the buffer or you will burn through the paint. I just use the weight of the buffer itself and try to keep it moving.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611598.jpg After the rubbing compound, I moved to a glazing compound, which is just a finer rubbing compound in spite of what they want to call it. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611649.jpg If your buffing pad starts to load up use a screw driver held at a right angle to the pad, with the buffer running, to clean it off. Keep a tight grip on both the buffer and the screwdriver! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611684.jpg I finished up with Meguairs number 7 show car glaze for the final buffing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611726.jpg |
Well in trying to work out a dull area I managed to burn through not just the clear coat, but the base coat! Fortunately the area is small and I will just touch it up when I am done.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611808.jpg And here is the finished project! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611861.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611877.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611895.jpg A number of the exterior parts for this project, including the car, were purchased from members of this board. Inspiration for the polished wheels and ducktail: Mark Wilson’s immaculate 911 SC, Texas. The car itself: BK911, formerly Maryland, now Florida Ducktail: Lothar, North Carolina Grill for ducktail: Porschevirus, Kansas Fuchs Wheels: Scott B, California. Polishing done by Al Reed, California Painted Center Caps: Steve911, California Front Chin Spoiler: Pelican Parts Gratuitous Gruppe B pic: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1060611927.jpg |
great detailed description and pics! looks like it turned out awesome. are you happy with the match of the new paint to the existing paint?
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That looks outstanding. When I saw the finished pictures, I thought, who has my car? Congratulations. Mark |
Kurt, that's a fantastic writeup, and really made me understand what's involved in painting a lot better.
Question about supplies: where do you buy paint, primer, etc.? In CA at least, it's difficult to find a store that will sell automotive paints, I guess for environmental reasons. |
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Sorry, I use to work in a paint shop at a Pontiac/ GMC dealership here in Vegas. Not critizing your work or ethics, just pointing out some things that would help. |
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911SC thanks for the pointers! As to the foam pad, the pads were only $15, it was the backing pad that was $33.00! Next time I'll see if I can find a cheaper set up. As to the buffer, you are correct, a buffer with a speed knob is definitely superior to what I used. But, then again, I don't paint for a living and already had the buffer so I made do with what I had. If I was doing a lot of painting I would definitely get a better buffer.
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Kurt,
Can you list some prices (as far as paint, clear)? |
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Primer - one qt around $20 Clear - one qt around $37 activator for clear - one qt. $15 Guards Red base paint - one qt. $87.00 base paint reducer - one qt. $30.00 cheapo lacquer thinner for clean up - one gallon $12.00 If you buy in quantity, such as a gallon, the paint is cheaper, but not by much. |
Can't wait to see that baby live and in person...WUF! WUF!
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