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911Twnb 08-19-2003 11:06 AM

911 Targa; to track or not to track
 
I just got a PPI done on an '83 Targa. I mentioned to the mech that it will be a daily driver but I will do some DE. He said that the Targa was not stable enough for the track and that I should be looking for a Coupe instead. Anyone agree with him?
I should mention that he is selling his '83 Coupe.

pbs911 08-19-2003 11:13 AM

He's right don't take it to the track. It's too addictive and will be way too much fun!

Nothing wrong with tracking a Targa. Tyson tracks Scruffy, an early cab conversion and eats up the big boys in their "coupe." I doubt an average driver would notice any difference in lap times between a coupe and a Targa.

surflvr911sc 08-19-2003 11:31 AM

I knew Paul would jump on that quick. Here is Paul's Targa at Willow Springs before the extra 100 horses. Looks like a Targa does pretty well to me.
http://www.opentrackracing.com/wspic121202/PC124801.jpg

Noel 08-19-2003 11:32 AM

He is refering to the fact the bodies of coupes being more rigid. IE less flexible than Targa's. However, if you don't plan to turn it into a track car with sticky tires, I would worry about it.

Noel

Eric Coffey 08-19-2003 11:51 AM

Data point:

I believe the legendary Mark Donahue once said that he preferred the handling characteristics of the Targa chassis (over the coupe).

89911 08-19-2003 12:02 PM

My region doesn't let Targa's on the track. They are afraid that the deafening windnoise will distract from concentrating on the track.:p

s2per 08-19-2003 02:48 PM

I've said it before, but my Targa is the best balanced of the three 911s that I've owned at the track. I've done the normal DE-oriented upgrades--carbon pads, Cool brakes, Bilsteins, seats/belts, Weltmeister, Kumho track rubber, etc. and it's a ball. Ultimately is a coupe stiffer? Sure. Will you notice on the track? Maybe, as your driving levels improve, but we're talking tenths of second here and there.

But does the top come off a coupe on a warm day? Buy the Targa. Enjoy it! Just like at Turn 1 at Sebring....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1061333256.jpg

911Twnb 08-19-2003 02:49 PM

Thanks y'all. I'm go to go for that Targa.

mm86911 08-19-2003 03:03 PM

I track my targa every chance I get!

MMARSH 08-19-2003 03:30 PM

One of the fastest Cars in the V3/R5 class in the POC was a Targa. I started out tracking a Targa and loved it. If a Targa is what you want go for it.

avi8torny 08-19-2003 05:13 PM

I'm all over the coupe's at the track...don't listen to him.

LeeH 08-19-2003 05:18 PM

TRACK! I'm in the blue '81.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/rdatl.jpg

Lot's of soft tops shown in this thread:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/88217-show-us-your-track-pics.html

pu911 08-19-2003 06:08 PM

The only time the coupes are superior are if you get upside down. I saw a good friend roll his targa at Grattan, his next track car was coupe.
Phil

84CAB 11-09-2005 05:48 PM

while searching the archives I ran across this old thread from a few years ago. With the ongoing targa - vs- coupe - vs- cab. I thought I might stir the pot a little.:)

450knotOffice 11-09-2005 05:54 PM

Where's the link?

VaSteve 11-09-2005 06:00 PM

See my signature....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1131591597.jpg

FrayAdjacent911 11-09-2005 06:21 PM

Maybe someday Stinky will see a track... got a lot of work to do, but the tub is VERY solid. I'm swapping the 15x7s and sway bars from my rusty coupe, and the vented rotors and brakes... then I'll have to chase down all the oil leaks...

SLO-BOB 11-09-2005 06:32 PM

A reason to get a Targa for the track-more headroom for helmet clearance.

Lots of targas at DEs lapping me in my coupe.:(

kqw 11-09-2005 07:51 PM

I recommend installing a strut tower brace and you can also install a body brace.

Otherwise it's fine on the track.

450knotOffice 11-09-2005 08:04 PM

Man...you guys are motivating me to get a roll bar for my Cab! I've already rebuilt my suspension, put the Bilstein sports on all four corners, put the strut brace on, lowered it, and have the S-03's on it. I am itching to get out there!!

As for body flex, I agree with those who say that most of us wouldn't notice any difference in our track times with a coupe, targa or cab. Most of us just are not good enough, nor will we ever be, to exploit a slightly stiffer body.


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